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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Apparently most folks that take his side are willfully overlooking the fact that despite the strikes and the multiple taserings, he was still resisting.
    And the fact that it took that many Officers to subdue him because of his resistance.
    Are you one of those overlooking that significant information?
    no I get he was resisting just fine it just doesn't change that the officers injured him fatally in their efforts to subdue him im even if those efforts were legal and in the line of duty

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    no I get he was resisting just fine it just doesn't change that the officers injured him fatally in their efforts to subdue him im even if those efforts were legal and in the line of duty
    Even if those efforts were legal and in the line of duty?
    Yeah it does pretty much matter. That is the whole point.
    There actions were in response to his actions, and occurred in the legal performance of their duties.
    And while tragic, makes them non-criminal.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
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    The video allows us to be "there". The video doesn't show the cops' lives being threatened. It shows them attacking someone and escalating, not subduing.
    I see some people continue to get way out of their lane on topics of this nature, especially people who should know better

    1 An unruly non compliant homeless *with nothing to lose* can easily infect LEOs with HIV, HepB, HepC, TB, etc.

    2 It's beyond retarded about size/weight differences....A 102lb 14 y/o can put a pen/comb/thumb through your eye just as easily if not faster than a 300 lb mofo.

    3 LEOs are needed to control persons that are unable to control themselves. Thinking about a "fair" fight in the streets is utter bs

    Drop, the monday morning quarterbacking. You simply don't understand the force continuum, what is feasible, or what the options were at that time

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    He did indicate, however, disagreement as to whether the police actions were justified or not. Unless I misunderstood.

    If that is the case, I repeat: I do not need any specific knowledge of the video to realize that if two differing opinions on it's meaning exist, misinterpretation must be present.

    If not ric27, perhaps Excon as an example.
    Your so-called indication as to whether the police actions were justified or not was his evasion, not disagreement to my point regarding Kelly on the ground and pinned. Nobody on this forum or any other internet sites commenting on this case has ever disputed about Kelly being on the ground and pinned down by the police. It's so patently clear in the video.


    You may have a point about individual interpretation on people arguing about police action and justification but that does not make you the sole impartial judge to accuse one side or the other of "misinterpretation". And like I said, you refused to watch the video so you shouldn't even persist on spouting nonsense about the video which you have no idea whatsoever.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Kelly as well as King did have it coming. Kelly (the offender) is/was in control of his future. Good behavior results in zero problems, smooth booking process and open lines of comms which is what is needed

    By acting violently (oc, tased, cuffed whatever ) violence is violence. He should expect the appropriate amount of force would be used to overcome his resistance. A decision made by the LEO. The offender summoned this use of force by his behavior. Had Kelly complied and been a gentleman he would be treated as such.
    Evasion much? So, I'm not going to be drawn deeper into your evasion. Your original point was that the six police officers needed to protect themselves from Kelly. And my point is that Kelly was on the ground and being pinned down, beaten and tased by the six men. So, what's there to protect?

    My previous post should have read "There was brawl NO coming from Kelly Thomas...."

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Never said you did, did I?
    Duh!
    I stated a fact which places the video in proper perspective.
    Nobody else ever said the opening statement was evidence. So, why would you be compelled to state a fact which places the video in proper perspective out of the blue?

    Do you go around yakking "the earth is not flat...the earth is not flat...the earth is not flat..." when nobody ever even asserted that the earth is flat just so you can state a fact which places the video in proper perspective?

    If you do, you need your head examined.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173]

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    I want to see the closing arguments, or any other part of the trial than the meaningless opening arguments that Racockass posted to try to show that he "tried". You have to be incompetent to not successfully prosecute a case like this - or deliberate malpractice. I think most interesting, however, would be the judge's instructions to the jury. Ron Thomas should request that the jury instructions be made a matter of public interest.

    I know, it seems like this is yet another case of the prosecution throwing the case either for political reason due to powerful police union or simply to protect ones of their own. Unfortunately, they only released the video recording of the opening argument. The trial itself and the closing argument weren't made available to the public. Not even the jury instruction. So, we are just left to wonder.

    BTW, I read from some tweek that the jury foreman was an attorney who once worked for the DA's office and another juror had some connection to the defence. I can't verify whether the info was true or not but take it with a grain of salt for now.

    But, here's another video of eye witness interview regarding Kelly's murder:


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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173]

    Here is the video of the immense police brutality inflicted on the innocent homeless guy:


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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    That is a direct result of his resisting.
    If he hadn't resisted he would still be alive.

    You force police to get on top of you to subdue you, and you are responsible.

    so it may not have been murder or man slaughter but that doesn't seem to change the fatal beating how legal it was
    They just started swinging their batons at Thomas, who posed no threat at all. To say they were "forced" by Thomas to do this, is delusional. Of course, you will disagree, even while watching the video. Somehow, you'll imagine Thomas lunging at them with "great force" when the video shows clearly that's not what happened. How pathetic you cop-lovers will resort to this.

    To everyone out there debating with these people who fecklessly attempt to contradict what our own eyes and ears tell us when we watch the video: Don't waste your time. It cannot be more obvious they work for damage control...OR have some information-processing impediment. Futile either way.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Your so-called indication as to whether the police actions were justified or not was his evasion, not disagreement to my point regarding Kelly on the ground and pinned. Nobody on this forum or any other internet sites commenting on this case has ever disputed about Kelly being on the ground and pinned down by the police. It's so patently clear in the video.


    You may have a point about individual interpretation on people arguing about police action and justification but that does not make you the sole impartial judge to accuse one side or the other of "misinterpretation". And like I said, you refused to watch the video so you shouldn't even persist on spouting nonsense about the video which you have no idea whatsoever.
    I did't refuse, I just can't be bothered to find and watch it.

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