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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Subdued for resisting arrest for doing what?
    He was resiting. Once you are at that point, it doesn't matter what he was being arrested for.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not quite.

    Yes, quite.
    It is right there.

    "The coroner listed the cause of death as asphyxiation from the officers piling on his chest during the struggle."

    Or do you not understand what that means.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    It's awful. Guilty Cops found not guilty !!!

    The rioting, looting, people being dragged out of their vehicles and having stones and bricks thrown at them. Half of the city is in flames. Where's the National Guard.

    Cant we all just get along ?

    Wait a minute, it's not happening. Oh, it not Los Angeles County but Orange County. One of the last bastions for conservatives.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    He was resiting. Once you are at that point, it doesn't matter what he was being arrested for.
    It does matter. What was he being arrested for? What was he doing?

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong.
    Compression of his chest is what happened.
    That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
    His resistance makes him the blame.
    Good grief.

    The officers went too far, period. No attempts to subdue someone should result in them going into a coma. They went too far, they passed subduing him for the purpose of their job and crossed the line into assault that lead to someone's death. They should be going to prison for a long time.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It does matter. What was he being arrested for? What was he doing?
    Not at that point it does not. You either comply or suffer the consequences.
    Sadly he didn't know what most folks do. Don't resist.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Good grief.

    The officers went too far, period. No attempts to subdue someone should result in them going into a coma. They went too far, they passed subduing him for the purpose of their job and crossed the line into assault that lead to someone's death. They should be going to prison for a long time.
    No they didn't go too far in trying to subdue him. He went too far in resiting which caused all of this.


    The jury verdict supports that.


    And please do not confuse that with Officer Cicinelli smashing him in the face with his taser.
    I do not agree with that, but it is not what lead to, or caused. his death.

    They did not murder the guy.
    They were acting in their capacity as law enforcement and trying to subdue someone who was resisting.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Yes, quite.
    It is right there.

    "The coroner listed the cause of death as asphyxiation from the officers piling on his chest during the struggle."

    Or do you not understand what that means.

    Yeah, and you do understand that coroner was not defending the cops Right? That he was on the side of the prosecution against these Murdering Cops.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they didn't go to far in trying to subdue him. He went to far in resiting which caused all of this.


    The jury verdict supports that.
    Just because someone resists, it doesn't give the police the right to kill them, it doesn't give the right for them to assault someone, and it doesn't give them the right to beat people into a coma.

    There is a difference between subduing someone and assaulting someone. The police in this instance assaulted someone, which lead to his death. They should be in prison, period.

    Thinking that just resisting gives the police a right to murder someone is silly.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Not at that point it does not. You either comply or suffer the consequences.
    Sadly he didn't know what most folks do. Don't resist.
    You're fine with police going up to people and putting them under arrest for no reason and then police killing them when they resist arrest?

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