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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You didn't.


    Edit: To clarify, I had earlier responded to someone's post about how the video clearly showed X by pointing out that video can be manipulated or misinterpreted - and I responded to your post because it seems apparent that at least the second half of that statement must be correct, since ric27 and yourself are obviously in disagreement, while having seen the same video (I think?).
    Please bear in mind ric's point about the six police officer having to protect themselves from this guy.

    The fact remains that the homeless guy was on the ground being heavily pinned down on his stomach. He was never once on his feet once down, was he? So, tell me, how can one argue that the six police officers were trying to protect themselves? Shouldn't the one trying to protect oneself be the one being brutally attacked by six big guys while all the time being pinned down to the ground until one was asphyxiated to death?

    P.S. there is no other interpretation whatsoever of the video concerning the homeless guy being on the ground and pinned down.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Police from OC got away with killing a white man. He must have been poor or mentally ill. A jury from Orange County would never allow one of their own to be treated like this. However, If he'd been a perfectly healthy rich white boy, these police officers would have hung from the tallest tree in TC Park.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Please bear in mind ric's point about the six police officer having to protect themselves from this guy.

    The fact remains that the homeless guy was on the ground being heavily pinned down on his stomach. He was never once on his feet once down, was he? So, tell me, how can one argue that the six police officers were trying to protect themselves? Shouldn't the one trying to protect oneself be the one being brutally attacked by six big guys while all the time being pinned down to the ground until one was asphyxiated to death?

    P.S. there is no other interpretation whatsoever of the video concerning the homeless guy being on the ground and pinned down.
    Obviously there is, since ric27 disagrees with you.

    I'm not saying who is correct, if anyone, just that, obviously, it is possible to misinterpret a video.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Obviously there is, since ric27 disagrees with you.

    I'm not saying who is correct, if anyone, just that, obviously, it is possible to misinterpret a video.
    As if you don't already know, people disagree even in the face of undenial proof. Disagreeing doesn't prove anything. You just have to use your common sense. How do you misinterpret a video about Kelly being on the ground and pinned face down? Either he was on the ground being pinned down or he was not. How can one misinterpret that?


    I noted in one of your posts you stated you didn't want to watch the video. So, you're in no position to make any comment regarding the video.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Still engaging in yet another evasion, I see.


    What does his past felonious history gotta do with your prior claim that the police were protecting themselves when all the while at the very moment Kelly was being battoned to the ground and pinned with crushing weight face down, tased, brutally assaulted and crushed to death?
    Believe it or not some of my hardest brawls have been with handcuffed individuals.

    Unless you were there, feeling what the officer/officers felt (from a physical resistance point of view) you simply cannot judge or are in a position to say the officer was wrong and to terminate....remember, the video everyone thought would convict the officers in the Rodney King incident acquitted them in the state criminal trial.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    As if you don't already know, people disagree even in the face of undenial proof. Disagreeing doesn't prove anything. You just have to use your common sense. How do you misinterpret a video about Kelly being on the ground and pinned face down? Either he was on the ground being pinned down or he was not. How can one misinterpret that?


    I noted in one of your posts you stated you didn't want to watch the video. So, you're in no position to make any comment regarding the video.
    Tis a very general comment.

    The misinterpretation may be intentional, or due to personal bias.
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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Believe it or not some of my hardest brawls have been with handcuffed individuals.

    Unless you were there, feeling what the officer/officers felt (from a physical resistance point of view) you simply cannot judge or are in a position to say the officer was wrong and to terminate....remember, the video everyone thought would convict the officers in the Rodney King incident acquitted them in the state criminal trial.

    NO incident is the same, none
    There was brawl coming from Kelly Thomas. He was in the receiving end of savage and brutal attacks all the while by six police officers. Seriously, you are going with Rodney King trial as your argument point? Really?

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Tis a very general comment.

    The misinterpretation may be intentional, or due to personal bias.
    Please watch the video, otherwise you won;t know what you're talking about.

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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173]

    For those who are interested in the opening argument of the Kelly Thomas trial, here's the video:


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    Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Please watch the video, otherwise you won;t know what you're talking about.
    Making the statement I did is not dependent on whether I watched the video or not.

    ANYTHING can be misinterpreted - whether that misinterpretation is intentional or unintentional.

    The apparent disagreement between you and ric27 indicates that one of you must be at least partially misinterpreting the video.
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