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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Generic Congressional Poll lead of plus 5 points or more: Today it is at minus 0.1 .
    Which party, DEM or GOP?
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    He was impeached and acquitted. Look at the House as a form of grand jury and the senate as the court in which the trail takes place. It takes a vote of 2/3rds of the senate to convicted. I suppose one could equate impeachment by the house with indictment by a grand jury. I think that is the closest I can come to explaining it. It is like when one is found not guilty of something in court, you were still indicted.
    Thanks, Pero. I've never understood what that meant. I hear some people say that he was impeached, and others insist he wasn't. So as a matter of legal records, he was impeached, but found "not guilty?" Basically it's just comes down to the humiliation of having been impeached, since he was acquitted, correct?

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
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    Nice new syndrome.
    Were these used in 2010?

    Based on your description on his high popularity, the President needs to GTFO out of the WH and do what he does best, campaign/work.
    Mr. Obama's back to allowing the GOP to define him, though Christie's January isn't hurting him.
    He needs to get his **** together before delivering a heckuva SOTU.

    ACA iscertainly the Octopus in the Democratic fish tank, to which I say "ONE DAY AT A TIME".
    Which party are these #s for, D or R?


    It wouldn't hurt Dems to bring up Gerry-Mandering early and often and then pound away on vulnerable GOPS,
    just like the GOP is currently doing right now on all Television during the Olympics.
    That would be called hardball by anyone.
    Time to take the gloves off.
    The Republicans are too disliked as a party I think to have another 2010 this year. The latest Gallup poll I seen place the Republican party at a 61% disapproval rating. The Democrats are not far behind at 54%. This year could be a battle to make the people hate one party a bit more than the other. You know, a vote for the least hated party.

    The just released Gallup poll on Party Affiliation has it 29% Democrat 24% Republican 45% independent. I would be almost willing to wager if things keep going on the way it has by years end independents might actually rise above 50%. More and more Americans are beginning to hate the two major parties. For party strength at the end of December of each year, both parties are at an all time low. Here, from 1940 to the present with the figures at years end or decades end for the Pew Research numbers.

    Pew Research for the 1940-2000 numbers/Gallup for 2010-Today

    Year…Dem…Rep…Ind…Ind.Lean.Dem….Ind.Lean.Rep…..True .Ind
    1940…50……32……18
    1950…48……32…..20
    1960…51……29…..20
    1970…47……27…..26
    1980…45……27…..28
    1990…38……30…..32
    2000…34……30…..36
    2010…32……33…..34………..12……………………15…………………7
    2011…30……27…..42………..18……………………15…………………9
    2012…35……30…..33………..16……………………12…………………5
    2013…30……24….44………..14…………………..18………………..13
    2014…29……24….45………..16…………………..16………………..15 Taken Jan 8
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which party, DEM or GOP?
    Republican minus 0.1. Actually RCP just changed it, it is now Democrat 42.5% Republican 42.0%. Here:

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - 2014 Generic Congressional Vote
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

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    Thanks, Pero. I've never understood what that meant. I hear some people say that he was impeached, and others insist he wasn't. So as a matter of legal records, he was impeached, but found "not guilty?" Basically it's just comes down to the humiliation of having been impeached, since he was acquitted, correct?
    Yep, and I do not think that really phased him. It was basically a witch hunt. If the American people cared so much about a BJ in the White House they wouldn't have had him at a 56% approval rating when the House took up impeachment. Or at 63% when the trial in the senate ended. If nothing else, this whole process made him more popular at the time.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Linc is back to being the party of the people.
    We need to not just talk about the issues like some,
    but offer solutions and then work diligently for them for the next 10 months until the election.

    Trans-Pacific Participation is an issue we must deal with intelligently, something I don't see with Fast-Track.
    I believe it to be another "new coalition issue", on the order of NSA but not the same dynamics.
    NOT straight GOP or DEM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The Republicans are too disliked as a party I think to have another 2010 this year. The latest Gallup poll I seen place the Republican party at a 61% disapproval rating. The Democrats are not far behind at 54%. This year could be a battle to make the people hate one party a bit more than the other. You know, a vote for the least hated party.
    The party that can redefine itself in a positive way and THEN follow through may pull off a big upset, either way.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    I didn't realize how much you liked Clinton.
    I have many reasons not to like him, starting with the way he continues to treat Carter, spinning aside.
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yep, and I do not think that really phased him. It was basically a witch hunt. If the American people cared so much about a BJ in the White House they wouldn't have had him at a 56% approval rating when the House took up impeachment. Or at 63% when the trial in the senate ended. If nothing else, this whole process made him more popular at the time.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yep, and I do not think that really phased him. It was basically a witch hunt. If the American people cared so much about a BJ in the White House they wouldn't have had him at a 56% approval rating when the House took up impeachment. Or at 63% when the trial in the senate ended. If nothing else, this whole process made him more popular at the time.
    I always thought that was more of a matter between he and his wife, personally. I think it was more his lying about it, but most people think politicians lie anyway, so what else is new? :

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Linc is back to being the party of the people.
    We need to not just talk about the issues like some,
    but offer solutions and then work diligently for them for the next 10 months until the election.

    Trans-Pacific Participation is an issue we must deal with intelligently, something I don't see with Fast-Track.
    I believe it to be another "new coalition issue", on the order of NSA but not the same dynamics.
    NOT straight GOP or DEM.
    The party that can redefine itself in a positive way and THEN follow through may pull off a big upset, either way.
    I haven't head of trans pacific Participation, is that some kind of get out the vote issue or something like that. The NSA spying really doesn't bother me much. Not like some anyway. Let me know what I am missing.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I didn't realize how much you liked Clinton.
    I have many reasons not to like him, starting with the way he continues to treat Carter, spinning aside.
    Billy Boy grew on me. In 1992 I really disliked the draft dodger or was it evader. His first two years was sort of a nightmare to me. But after that he started to grow on me. In the end he came as close to balancing the budget as any president had since IKE. He adopted quite a lot of Perot's ideas, although NAFTA and the WTO to me were big mistakes.

    Perhaps I seen a lot of me in him. Except I grew out of my working on the Thai Railroad once married, he never did. After he left the presidency I came to realize exactly how good a president he had been and ranked him right behind IKE and JFK as the best presidents I have personally experience, right ahead of Reagan.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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