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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not a Democrat. Nice try, though.
    Of course you are, you vote democrat.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Of course you are, you vote democrat.
    How do you know who I vote for?

    Oh, and this interaction with you ends now. Toodles.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    How do you know who I vote for?
    Are you pretending you do not vote democrat?

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm glad to see you've mellowed on Harry since I was gone the weekend.
    I'm sure Mitch will be glad to extend the nuclear option to the ACA if the GOP takes the Senate.

    This is another decision to prove Linc is correct on his prediction that Sotomayor has joined Roberts and Kennedy in a 3-way.
    I don't think she's very happy with the SCOTUS right now and will make a statement, crossing over .
    Even if the GOP takes the senate come November, it would do no good to expand the nuclear option to legislative matters. President Obama would just veto any repeal. So unless somehow the repeal could garner 2/3rds vote in both the house and senate, it would be just wasting time. If I was a Republican I would wait until I got a president in the white house before expanding it. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Reid doesn't do that first especially if the Dems retain control of the senate. I expect that they will.

    I do have a gut feeling that Grimes will come out on top in Kentucky. I was checking into a PPP poll on Kentucky, McConnell has only a 31% approval rating and 61% disapproval. Even if he has more money than Grimes, that will be tough to over come.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Even if the GOP takes the senate come November, it would do no good to expand the nuclear option to legislative matters. President Obama would just veto any repeal. So unless somehow the repeal could garner 2/3rds vote in both the house and senate, it would be just wasting time. If I was a Republican I would wait until I got a president in the white house before expanding it. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Reid doesn't do that first especially if the Dems retain control of the senate. I expect that they will.
    If the SCOTUS goes against Obama, the GOP House will add it to its list of faux reasons to Impeach the POTUS.
    Even if the GOP doesn't take the Senate, Linc predicts the House will still Impeach Obama, just in time to ruin the Christmas of 2015.
    If the GOP has the Senate, they may as well go ahead and try Mr. Obama,
    since the 2016 election will be already be a referendum election, as in 2008 with Bush.
    I do have a gut feeling that Grimes will come out on top in Kentucky. I was checking into a PPP poll on Kentucky, McConnell has only a 31% approval rating and 61% disapproval. Even if he has more money than Grimes, that will be tough to over come.
    My new feel on the Senate is not on the individual candidates, but on the peripheral influences.
    I'll just say the word Christie, since that's all that I need to say on that influence.

    Under the radar, we have the asshole Baucus pushing a fast-track TPP that is dividing the Democrats.
    The 12 countries literally make up the ring of fire we know of with volcanoes.
    This one's a political volcano for the Dems.
    There are some good GOPs on this issue with textiles, imports, wages, and jobs, but the Elite GOPs are just eating popcorn.

    In particular, Montana will be pissed at Baucus, so I have swung MT to lean R .
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If the SCOTUS goes against Obama, the GOP House will add it to its list of faux reasons to Impeach the POTUS.
    Even if the GOP doesn't take the Senate, Linc predicts the House will still Impeach Obama, just in time to ruin the Christmas of 2015.
    If the GOP has the Senate, they may as well go ahead and try Mr. Obama,
    since the 2016 election will be already be a referendum election, as in 2008 with Bush.


    My new feel on the Senate is not on the individual candidates, but on the peripheral influences.
    I'll just say the word Christie, since that's all that I need to say on that influence.

    Under the radar, we have the asshole Baucus pushing a fast-track TPP that is dividing the Democrats.
    The 12 countries literally make up the ring of fire we know of with volcanoes.
    This one's a political volcano for the Dems.
    There are some good GOPs on this issue with textiles, imports, wages, and jobs, but the Elite GOPs are just eating popcorn.

    In particular, Montana will be pissed at Baucus, so I have swung MT to lean R .
    Only fools would try to impeach the president. One would think the Republicans would have learned their lesson when they tried that shenanigan against Clinton. Clinton was more popular with the American people after impeachment than before it. They better have some real good evidence of high crimes as I don't think the American people would put up with it.

    You are right that at this moment in time the senate hinges more on the ACA than on any individual candidates. But that could change once all the names are known. Remember back in January of 2012, Mr. Generic GOP Presidential Candidate was trouncing Obama and the GOP seemed poised to win 6 or 7 senate seats. Then the names surfaced and the rest was history. I personally would like to see McConnell lose to Grimes, but the GOP picked up a net gain of 6 or 7 seats to put Reid on the back bench. Then perhaps we could get a majority leader who might put America first. I wonder if there are any more Mitchell's and Dole's in the senate or even Lott's and Daschles.

    I have had the GOP picking up WV, SD and MT from the get go, I have since added AR and NC, although Hagan may be able to pull out NC. RCP has a new Michigan poll,

    1/13 Conservative Intel poll of Michigan | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

    I have been thinking about switch Michigan from a Democratic Hold to a Republican gain on my update number 6 1 Feb. But I would counter than with my gut feeling about Kentucky and give it to Grimes. Begich still looks good in AL and Landrieu has an 7 point lead over Cassidy. But if you add Cassidy and Maness, the two Republicans they lead Landrieu by 44-41. I probably won't switch LA to GOP until I see more evidence. Landrieu has a ton of money and is from a LA political family. She will be hard to beat, but not impossible. If Landrieu loses it will be because of her support for the ACA, Hagan also along with Pryor and all 3 are distancing themselves pretty fast from it and Landrieu had a campaign stop in Lake Charles the same day President Obama was speaking in New Orleans. Trends to come?

    Here is something else I have been playing with.

    Four criteria for another 2010 for the Republicans in 2014

    President Obama Approval Rating of below 45%: Today he is at 42.1% disapprove 53.4%

    ACA gap of 12 points in the oppose side: Today it is at 15.3%

    Generic Congressional Poll lead of plus 5 points or more: Today it is at minus 0.1

    Party affiliation/identification Republicans relative even with Democrats and has a total lead of at least 5 points when Independent lean Republican and Independent lean Democrat are added with the party base statistics: Today the party affiliation is 24% Republican 29% Democrat and when you include the Independent leans the Democrats lead 45-40.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If the SCOTUS goes against Obama, the GOP House will add it to its list of faux reasons to Impeach the POTUS.
    Even if the GOP doesn't take the Senate, Linc predicts the House will still Impeach Obama, just in time to ruin the Christmas of 2015.
    If the GOP has the Senate, they may as well go ahead and try Mr. Obama,
    since the 2016 election will be already be a referendum election, as in 2008 with Bush.


    My new feel on the Senate is not on the individual candidates, but on the peripheral influences.
    I'll just say the word Christie, since that's all that I need to say on that influence.

    Under the radar, we have the asshole Baucus pushing a fast-track TPP that is dividing the Democrats.
    The 12 countries literally make up the ring of fire we know of with volcanoes.
    This one's a political volcano for the Dems.
    There are some good GOPs on this issue with textiles, imports, wages, and jobs, but the Elite GOPs are just eating popcorn.

    In particular, Montana will be pissed at Baucus, so I have swung MT to lean R .
    Only fools would try to impeach the president. One would think the Republicans would have learned their lesson when they tried that shenanigan against Clinton. Clinton was more popular with the American people after impeachment than before it. They better have some real good evidence of high crimes as I don't think the American people would put up with it.

    You are right that at this moment in time the senate hinges more on the ACA than on any individual candidates. But that could change once all the names are known. Remember back in January of 2012, Mr. Generic GOP Presidential Candidate was trouncing Obama and the GOP seemed poised to win 6 or 7 senate seats. Then the names surfaced and the rest was history. I personally would like to see McConnell lose to Grimes, but the GOP picked up a net gain of 6 or 7 seats to put Reid on the back bench. Then perhaps we could get a majority leader who might put America first. I wonder if there are any more Mitchell's and Dole's in the senate or even Lott's and Daschles.

    I have had the GOP picking up WV, SD and MT from the get go, I have since added AR and NC, although Hagan may be able to pull out NC. RCP has a new Michigan poll,

    1/13 Conservative Intel poll of Michigan | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

    I have been thinking about switch Michigan from a Democratic Hold to a Republican gain on my update number 6 1 Feb. But I would counter than with my gut feeling about Kentucky and give it to Grimes. Begich still looks good in AL and Landrieu has an 7 point lead over Cassidy. But if you add Cassidy and Maness, the two Republicans they lead Landrieu by 44-41. I probably won't switch LA to GOP until I see more evidence. Landrieu has a ton of money and is from a LA political family. She will be hard to beat, but not impossible. If Landrieu loses it will be because of her support for the ACA, Hagan also along with Pryor and all 3 are distancing themselves pretty fast from it and Landrieu had a campaign stop in Lake Charles the same day President Obama was speaking in New Orleans. Trends to come?

    Here is something else I have been playing with.

    Four criteria for another 2010 for the Republicans in 2014

    President Obama Approval Rating of below 45%: Today he is at 42.1% disapprove 53.4%

    ACA gap of 12 points in the oppose side: Today it is at 15.3%

    Generic Congressional Poll lead of plus 5 points or more: Today it is at minus 0.1

    Party affiliation/identification Republicans relative even with Democrats and has a total lead of at least 5 points when Independent lean Republican and Independent lean Democrat are added with the party base statistics: Today the party affiliation is 24% Republican 29% Democrat and when you include the Independent leans the Democrats lead 45-40.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Only fools would try to impeach the president. One would think the Republicans would have learned their lesson when they tried that shenanigan against Clinton. Clinton was more popular with the American people after impeachment than before it. They better have some real good evidence of high crimes as I don't think the American people would put up with it.

    You are right that at this moment in time the senate hinges more on the ACA than on any individual candidates. But that could change once all the names are known. Remember back in January of 2012, Mr. Generic GOP Presidential Candidate was trouncing Obama and the GOP seemed poised to win 6 or 7 senate seats. Then the names surfaced and the rest was history. I personally would like to see McConnell lose to Grimes, but the GOP picked up a net gain of 6 or 7 seats to put Reid on the back bench. Then perhaps we could get a majority leader who might put America first. I wonder if there are any more Mitchell's and Dole's in the senate or even Lott's and Daschles.

    I have had the GOP picking up WV, SD and MT from the get go, I have since added AR and NC, although Hagan may be able to pull out NC. RCP has a new Michigan poll,

    1/13 Conservative Intel poll of Michigan | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

    I have been thinking about switch Michigan from a Democratic Hold to a Republican gain on my update number 6 1 Feb. But I would counter than with my gut feeling about Kentucky and give it to Grimes. Begich still looks good in AL and Landrieu has an 7 point lead over Cassidy. But if you add Cassidy and Maness, the two Republicans they lead Landrieu by 44-41. I probably won't switch LA to GOP until I see more evidence. Landrieu has a ton of money and is from a LA political family. She will be hard to beat, but not impossible. If Landrieu loses it will be because of her support for the ACA, Hagan also along with Pryor and all 3 are distancing themselves pretty fast from it and Landrieu had a campaign stop in Lake Charles the same day President Obama was speaking in New Orleans. Trends to come?

    Here is something else I have been playing with.

    Four criteria for another 2010 for the Republicans in 2014

    President Obama Approval Rating of below 45%: Today he is at 42.1% disapprove 53.4%

    ACA gap of 12 points in the oppose side: Today it is at 15.3%

    Generic Congressional Poll lead of plus 5 points or more: Today it is at minus 0.1

    Party affiliation/identification Republicans relative even with Democrats and has a total lead of at least 5 points when Independent lean Republican and Independent lean Democrat are added with the party base statistics: Today the party affiliation is 24% Republican 29% Democrat and when you include the Independent leans the Democrats lead 45-40.
    T thought that Clinton was impeached by the House. Does the fact that he was acquitted by the Senate mean that the impeachment never happened, or that it didn't matter, or something else?

    Greetings, Pero.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    T thought that Clinton was impeached by the House. Does the fact that he was acquitted by the Senate mean that the impeachment never happened, or that it didn't matter, or something else?

    Greetings, Pero.
    He was impeached and acquitted. Look at the House as a form of grand jury and the senate as the court in which the trail takes place. It takes a vote of 2/3rds of the senate to convicted. I suppose one could equate impeachment by the house with indictment by a grand jury. I think that is the closest I can come to explaining it. It is like when one is found not guilty of something in court, you were still indicted.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Four criteria for another 2010 for the Republicans in 2014
    Nice new syndrome.
    Were these used in 2010?
    President Obama Approval Rating of below 45%: Today he is at 42.1% disapprove 53.4%
    Based on your description on his high popularity, the President needs to GTFO out of the WH and do what he does best, campaign/work.
    Mr. Obama's back to allowing the GOP to define him, though Christie's January isn't hurting him.
    He needs to get his **** together before delivering a heckuva SOTU.
    ACA gap of 12 points in the oppose side: Today it is at 15.3%
    ACA is certainly the Octopus in the Democratic fish tank, to which I say "ONE DAY AT A TIME".
    Party affiliation/identification Republicans relative even with Democrats and has a total lead of at least 5 points when Independent lean Republican and Independent lean Democrat are added with the party base statistics: Today the party affiliation is 24% Republican 29% Democrat and when you include the Independent leans the Democrats lead 45-40.
    It wouldn't hurt Dems to bring up Gerry-Mandering early and often and then pound away on vulnerable GOPS,
    just like the GOP is currently doing right now on all Television during the Olympics on vulnerable Dems with ACA.
    That would be called hardball by anyone.
    Time to take the gloves off.
    Last edited by NIMBY; 01-13-14 at 10:57 PM.
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