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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I was just interested in the topic and so too were the others. I think Clinton was a good president and think the Republicans tried to railroad him out of office. Now if my life had been different those 10 years I spent in Southeast Asia, perhaps I would have looked upon his escapes different. But when one has visited the Cellar Bar in Bangkok and Madam Lulu's in Vientiane and partook of the local cuisine, I do not think I am one to condemn him over a simple BJ in the White House.

    It was plain stupid on his part, it showed a total lack of common sense and he should have known better. As for gun control, I never got into that as hot and heavy as I did this. But stay tuned, the time will probably come.
    See, there you go again....You admitted to me that it was the perjury that got him impeached, not the BJ, but now in talking to someone else you are right back to blaming it on a BJ...This is why it is so frustrating, either you understand what a crime it is to lie to a Federal Judge, or you don't...You can't have it both ways. As far as Clinton is concerned it wasn't a common sense matter, more like a lack of moral, and ethical boundaries. Lewenski wasn't the first bimbo in his collection, and thank God he isn't President anymore, because I feel certain it wasn't the last. He is a reprobate. We as a nation need to get back to honorable people, with ethical, and moral compass to run this country. The damage that one President can do in perception, and standing in the world is too important to have some adolescent wanna be running around with a perpetual hard on disgracing the office.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    He perjured about the relationship, which has nothing to do with his governing. He lied sure, but about things that do not have any illegal connections.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    He perjured about the relationship, which has nothing to do with his governing. He lied sure, but about things that do not have any illegal connections.
    My point is that a lie is a lie...If found to be such, and a crime like lying to a Federal Judge, btw, for you and I punishable by imprisonment, then damned right he or any President that does this should be removed.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    My point is that a lie is a lie...If found to be such, and a crime like lying to a Federal Judge, btw, for you and I punishable by imprisonment, then damned right he or any President that does this should be removed.
    Only if the issue relates to his governing.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Only if the issue relates to his governing.
    Wait a minute, can you show me that distinction in the Constitution? I missed it....Also, are President's above the law?
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute, can you show me that distinction in the Constitution? I missed it....Also, are President's above the law?
    Yeah I can. The meaning of perjury has been legally altered slightly, and the founders would not consider this a high crime or misdemeanor. Perjury would have been breaking the oath of office, which he did not do.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Yeah I can. The meaning of perjury has been legally altered slightly, and the founders would not consider this a high crime or misdemeanor. Perjury would have been breaking the oath of office, which he did not do.
    I'm all eyes....Prove it.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In that then I would have to ask, what does? I mean if a President can lie to a Federal Judge, and it is, in your words here, not enough of a high crime to remove him from office, I'd say that Clinton, and his supporters accomplished more than just getting through that scandal, they succeeded in circumventing the Constitution, and weakening it. Good Job.
    You're opinion. I suppose the bottom line was he wasn't impeached, or at least found not guilty by the vote in the senate. I think if he had lied about something else that effected his job, perhaps the American public would have been more upset about. But then maybe not. Maybe the majority of Americans were showing sympathy towards him as they perceived the Ken Starr and the Republicans in congress as a witch hunt.

    Do you really believe that lying about a BJ is an impeachable offense? It very well maybe to you, but I think in order to remove a president he needs to have done something very bad, unspeakable so to speak. All I can do is show you that at the time 65% of all Americans thought he shouldn't be impeached. You are part of that 35% who did. So in the end it seems to boil down to political persuasion.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

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    So do you know the last time the Senate was "officially" in recess, because I don't.
    The Senate GOP now uses the recess like all of their other filibusters, and refuse to allow the recess to be "official, on McConnell's technicalities .
    As far as I know, there is a recess every two years, when we move from one Congress to the next. Also, I believe that the Senate can recess whenever it wants, as much as it wants, but if the House is still in session, then Congress as a whole, is not in recess. So Blaming McConnell makes no sense, since it was the house that stayed in session, I believe, when Obama made the unconstitutional appointments.
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    Re: Justices skeptical of Obama’s recess appointment claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You're opinion. I suppose the bottom line was he wasn't impeached, or at least found not guilty by the vote in the senate. I think if he had lied about something else that effected his job, perhaps the American public would have been more upset about. But then maybe not. Maybe the majority of Americans were showing sympathy towards him as they perceived the Ken Starr and the Republicans in congress as a witch hunt.

    Do you really believe that lying about a BJ is an impeachable offense? It very well maybe to you, but I think in order to remove a president he needs to have done something very bad, unspeakable so to speak. All I can do is show you that at the time 65% of all Americans thought he shouldn't be impeached. You are part of that 35% who did. So in the end it seems to boil down to political persuasion.
    God, the left will rationalize anything. He was impeached, that is a fact. No maybe, or at least, impeached. Period (to use Oboma's favorite emphasis).
    By your rational, the Nixon attempted impeachment was a witch hunt, since he did not know about the break in, he just lied about it. And, in my opinion, far less of an offense than things that Obama has done.
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