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Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

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Holder: Feds recognize Utah's same-sex marriages | MSNBC


Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages01/10/14 02:29 PM

The legal status of same-sex married couples in Utah has become a little murky in recent days. Attorney General Eric Holder tried to bring some clarity to the issue this afternoon.

Last month, a federal court struck down Utah’s ban on marriage equality, immediately opening the door to equal-marriage rights statewide. Roughly 1,300 couples took advantage of the opportunity and tied the legally recognized knot.
The U.S. Supreme Court, however, issued a stay this week, reinstating Utah’s ban while the appeals process unfolds. And as Adam Serwer explained, state officials “took the additional step of telling the couples who were married in the meantime that, in the eyes of the state of Utah, while the litigation is ongoing, those marriages don’t count.”

AG Holder offered a response today, letting those same couples know that as far as the federal government is concerned, their marriages do count. For those who can’t watch clips online, he said in a new video:
“Last June, the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision – in United States v. Windsor – holding that Americans in same-sex marriages are entitled to equal protection and equal treatment under the law. This ruling marked a historic step toward equality for all American families. And since the day it was handed down, the Department of Justice has been working tirelessly to implement it in both letter and spirit – moving to extend – federal benefits to married same-sex couples as swiftly and smoothly as possible.

“Recently, an administrative step by the court has cast doubt on same-sex marriages that have been performed in the state of Utah. And the governor has announced that the state will not recognize these marriages pending additional court action.[/FONT]

“In the meantime, I am confirming today that, for purposes of federal law, these marriages will be recognized as lawful and considered eligible for all relevant federal benefits on the same terms as other same-sex marriages. These families should not be asked to endure uncertainty regarding their status as the litigation unfolds. In the days ahead, we will continue to coordinate across the federal government to ensure the timely provision of every federal benefit to which Utah couples and couples throughout the country are entitled – regardless of whether they in same-sex or opposite-sex marriages. And we will continue to provide additional information as soon as it becomes available.”[/FONT]

Back-up Links:
Federal government to recognize same-sex marriages in Utah | Fox News
Feds Recognize Same-Sex Couples in Utah - ABC News
Holder: Same-sex marriages in Utah legal under federal law - The Washington Post
Feds recognize same-sex couples in Utah - The Denver Post
Utah gay marriages will be recognized by federal government, attorney general says - U.S. News
Breaking: Obama administration will recognize same-sex marriages in Utah – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Feds Say They Will Recognize Same-Sex Marriages Performed In Utah « CBS Sacramento

Seem to be some confusion on this not only here but nationally so here the breaking news to correct the misinformed and misinformation.

Some though the utah marriages were magically null and voided and that they were currently worthless and meaningless as you can see above this is factually false.
Whether more marriages can be done will be left to trail but currently all those marriages are legal and get FEDERALLY recognized and the state will also be recognizing them for any FEDERAL needs.

Hope this helps with the confusion.
 
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I would love to know why the Feds believe they can just do whatever they want..... It's keen to the authoritarian policies of the former USSR (who I believe Holder, Obama, Reid and Pelosi absolutely adore)...

Holder belongs in prison on charges of tyranny.
 
I would love to know why the Feds believe they can just do whatever they want..... It's keen to the authoritarian policies of the former USSR (who I believe Holder, Obama, Reid and Pelosi absolutely adore)...

Holder belongs in prison on charges of tyranny.

they followed the law as explained and factually pointed out in the links :shrug:
no amount of your opinion will change this
 
they followed the law as explained and factually pointed out in the links :shrug:
no amount of your opinion will change this

No they SELECTIVELY FOLLOWED THE LAW...

When the law puts a damper on their plight they circumvent the law, but when it works in their favor they champion themselves as founding fathers....

These clowns are are real pieces of ****.....
 
No they SELECTIVELY FOLLOWED THE LAW...

When the law puts a damper on their plight they circumvent the law, but when it works in their favor they champion themselves as founding fathers....

These clowns are are real pieces of ****.....

Fourteenth and Ninth Amendments, son.
 
1.)No they SELECTIVELY FOLLOWED THE LAW...
2.) When the law puts a damper on their plight they circumvent the law, but when it works in their favor they champion themselves as founding fathers....
3.) These clowns are are real pieces of ****.....

1.) you are welcome to the opinion and it may be true but in this case the followed the law, if you have another issue topic you'd like to talk about feel free to do so in a thread about that topic
2.) see #1
3.) see #1

fact remains they followed the law as the links point out
 
Yeah, we REALLY needed another thread on this. Another forum for the OP poster to repeat, rinse, repeat.
 
Yeah, we REALLY needed another thread on this. Another forum for the OP poster to repeat, rinse, repeat.
people have to learn the FACTS somehow

also this is breaking news, please see the OP and date of articles, the other thread had its own breaking news link and story that was about UTAH on the 8th, this is about the FED on the 10 straightening people out to the facts they were confused on.

Do you have any facts to offer on this topic?
 
Holder also agreed it is legal for Utah to not recognize gay marriages.
 
Well, too bad, last I checked Marriage licenses aren't handed out at the Federal level, but the State..As such you can't recognize that which isn't issued.
 
I agree 100% the spreading of facts is par for the course

Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...
 
Holder also agreed it is legal for Utah to not recognize gay marriages.

yes the state doesnt have to grant or do any state recognition during the stay, yes SCOTUS made that so.

but the state DOES have to recognize any FEDERAL issues it may deal with

very good!
 
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1.)Well, too bad, last I checked Marriage licenses aren't handed out at the Federal level, but the State..
2.)As such you can't recognize that which isn't issued.

1.) I weird i dont see anywhere that said the fed handed out marriage license? oh thats right nobody did just a meaningless point
2.) links and facts prove you wrong cause they were issued and are being FEDERALLY recognized as the FED and STATE said.
 
Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...

Greetings, AP.:2wave:

Your appearances have become the equivalent of Halley's Comet sightings.:peace
 
Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...

no its not a fact because he didn't do this
he followed the law if you read the article and understand what is factually going on

he didnt overrule anything he just cleared up peoples confusion and let them know the facts.

the COURTS will still decided if Utah will be granting future marriages :shrug:
 
Maybe this will be the beginning of federal recognition no matter the state law.


Edit: to elaborate the federal government can make some kind of federally recognized union/marriage license/certificate/whatever that it will recognize no matter the state law.
 
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Greetings, AP.:2wave:

Your appearances have become the equivalent of Halley's Comet sightings.:peace

Good evening 2m. I've been laying a bit low recently. pg can explain further...
 
Holder: Feds recognize Utah's same-sex marriages | MSNBC




Back-up Links:
Federal government to recognize same-sex marriages in Utah | Fox News
Feds Recognize Same-Sex Couples in Utah - ABC News
Holder: Same-sex marriages in Utah legal under federal law - The Washington Post
Feds recognize same-sex couples in Utah - The Denver Post
Utah gay marriages will be recognized by federal government, attorney general says - U.S. News
Breaking: Obama administration will recognize same-sex marriages in Utah – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Feds Say They Will Recognize Same-Sex Marriages Performed In Utah « CBS Sacramento

Seem to be some confusion on this not only here but nationally so here the breaking news to correct the misinformed and misinformation.

Some though the utah marriages were magically null and voided and that they were currently worthless and meaningless as you can see above this is factually false.
Whether more marriages can be done will be left to trail but currently all those marriages are legal and get FEDERALLY recognized and the state will also be recognizing them for any FEDERAL needs.

Hope this helps with the confusion.


Great, now if only we could get Obama and Holder to recognize our immigration laws and uphold them, we'd be in good shape. All political, and has nothing to do with the merits, BUT I suspect you have no clue what I'm talking about?


Tim-
 
no its not a fact because he didn't do this
he followed the law if you read the article and understand what is factually going on

he didnt overrule anything he just cleared up peoples confusion and let them know the facts.

the COURTS will still decided if Utah will be granting future marriages :shrug:

What law did Holder follow? Please cite it specifically...
 
Great, now if only we could get Obama and Holder to recognize our immigration laws and uphold them, we'd be in good shape. All political, and has nothing to do with the merits, BUT I suspect you have no clue what I'm talking about?


Tim-

sorry this thread is about The Fed and marriages in Utah
if youd like to make your own thread about another issues its pretty easy

and just for a side note, ILLEGAL immigrants are illegals, hence criminals, hence breaking the law and unless operating under the law and legally they should be immediately deported. but again that has nothing to do with this topic.
 
What law did Holder follow? Please cite it specifically...

its in the OP read his quote, you will find all the facts and answers there.
 
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