Page 6 of 13 FirstFirst ... 45678 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 130

Thread: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

  1. #51
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I again ask if you believe your opinion to be true simply point out the opinions of mine that i called facts and prove them not to be true, We are waiting.

    Fact:
    these marriages are currently recognized by the FED
    No, no one is waiting, folks here know your tactic and some go along with it when they agree with your opinon. There is nothing for the feds to recognise. They are not the issuers of those licenses and the IRS cannot recognise licenses that are on hold by the issuer. Nor can any federal agency. This is a matter of law.

  2. #52
    Guru
    scatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Last Seen
    02-09-17 @ 10:57 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,721

    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    No he didn't. He said that they do not have to recognize those marriages they allowed UNTIL the case is over.
    Yeah, it is legal for them to decide that, given the situation.

  3. #53
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    The STATE of Utah handed out those marriage licenses. Over 1000 of them in about a week.
    Yup, and now the state of Utah has put a hold on those licenses. They remain not in force unless and until Utah changes it's mind or they lose the court decision and the court orders them to bring those licenses in force.

  4. #54
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,777

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, no one is waiting, folks here know your tactic and some go along with it when they agree with your opinon.
    2.)There is nothing for the feds to recognise.
    3.)They are not the issuers of those licenses
    4.) and the IRS cannot recognise licenses that are on hold by the issuer.
    5.) Nor can any federal agency. This is a matter of law.
    1.) if you say so but this just means you have no facts to support you
    2.) factually wrong as proven in the OP, there is nothing you can post to change this fact.
    3.) nobody made this claim, just another failed strawman
    4.) see #2
    5.) see #2
    6.) yes it is and the law proves your opinion wrong
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  5. #55
    Relentless Thinking Fury
    ChezC3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:31 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    9,123

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    The STATE of Utah handed out those marriage licenses. Over 1000 of them in about a week.
    but they aren't handing out anymore of them now, are they?

  6. #56
    Sage
    Renae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    San Antonio Texas
    Last Seen
    10-23-17 @ 10:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    38,972
    Blog Entries
    15

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    they followed the law as explained and factually pointed out in the links
    no amount of your opinion will change this
    Like they follow Obama care, except when they need to ignore it? Or say bankruptcy unless it will hurt the unions? The list of when the law isn't really followed with this admin is quite long.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



  7. #57
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    42,019

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Great, now if only we could get Obama and Holder to recognize our immigration laws and uphold them, we'd be in good shape. All political, and has nothing to do with the merits, BUT I suspect you have no clue what I'm talking about?


    Tim-
    Has Barack Obama deported more people than any other president in U.S. history? | PolitiFact

    If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents.
    That was in 2012.... in 2013:

    Just 364,700 illegal immigrants were removed in fiscal 2013, according to internal numbers from U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement that CIS released Wednesday — down 11 percent from the nearly 410,000 who were deported in 2012.

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2q2pdWIBs
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
    So Obama is currently at 1.75 million immigrants deported with ~3 years left. So if this trend continues, Obama will officially have been the president to deport the most people - somewhere around the 2.5 million mark. This puts him ahead of any president and makes him by the far the president to most uphold immigration laws.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 01-10-14 at 08:24 PM.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  8. #58
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Precisely which law allows the federal to honor a state license that has been put on hold by the issuing state?

  9. #59
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Deportation is only one part of immigration law.

  10. #60
    Pragmatist
    AlabamaPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 11:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,834

    Re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so the answer is you dont have anything on topic, actual and factual to st, got it. I knew that but let us know when it changes. Thanks
    What is the topic you're posting about, and can you, yourself defend it?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

Page 6 of 13 FirstFirst ... 45678 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •