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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Holder also agreed it is legal for Utah to not recognize gay marriages.

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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Well, too bad, last I checked Marriage licenses aren't handed out at the Federal level, but the State..As such you can't recognize that which isn't issued.

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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

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    I agree 100% the spreading of facts is par for the course
    Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Holder also agreed it is legal for Utah to not recognize gay marriages.
    yes the state doesnt have to grant or do any state recognition during the stay, yes SCOTUS made that so.

    but the state DOES have to recognize any FEDERAL issues it may deal with

    very good!
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    1.)Well, too bad, last I checked Marriage licenses aren't handed out at the Federal level, but the State..
    2.)As such you can't recognize that which isn't issued.
    1.) I weird i dont see anywhere that said the fed handed out marriage license? oh thats right nobody did just a meaningless point
    2.) links and facts prove you wrong cause they were issued and are being FEDERALLY recognized as the FED and STATE said.
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is it a fact that Holder has overstepped his authority by granting privileges outside of his authority? If not, explain where the authority is derived...
    no its not a fact because he didn't do this
    he followed the law if you read the article and understand what is factually going on

    he didnt overrule anything he just cleared up peoples confusion and let them know the facts.

    the COURTS will still decided if Utah will be granting future marriages
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Maybe this will be the beginning of federal recognition no matter the state law.


    Edit: to elaborate the federal government can make some kind of federally recognized union/marriage license/certificate/whatever that it will recognize no matter the state law.
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Greetings, AP.

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    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Holder: Feds recognize Utah’s same-sex marriages[W:50]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Holder: Feds recognize Utah's same-sex marriages | MSNBC




    Back-up Links:
    Federal government to recognize same-sex marriages in Utah | Fox News
    Feds Recognize Same-Sex Couples in Utah - ABC News
    Holder: Same-sex marriages in Utah legal under federal law - The Washington Post
    Feds recognize same-sex couples in Utah - The Denver Post
    Utah gay marriages will be recognized by federal government, attorney general says - U.S. News
    Breaking: Obama administration will recognize same-sex marriages in Utah – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
    Feds Say They Will Recognize Same-Sex Marriages Performed In Utah « CBS Sacramento

    Seem to be some confusion on this not only here but nationally so here the breaking news to correct the misinformed and misinformation.

    Some though the utah marriages were magically null and voided and that they were currently worthless and meaningless as you can see above this is factually false.
    Whether more marriages can be done will be left to trail but currently all those marriages are legal and get FEDERALLY recognized and the state will also be recognizing them for any FEDERAL needs.

    Hope this helps with the confusion.

    Great, now if only we could get Obama and Holder to recognize our immigration laws and uphold them, we'd be in good shape. All political, and has nothing to do with the merits, BUT I suspect you have no clue what I'm talking about?


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