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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you guys know the drill. the economy is (awesome!) (horrible!), and it is the (accomplishment) (failure) of (___________.)
    Take your pick.

    Isn't the US population growing by about 247,000 monthly?

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Take your pick.

    Isn't the US population growing by about 247,000 monthly?
    So, one vote for the economy is horrible, and it is the fault of immigration ?

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The short article is a good, quick read.
    It beats the hell out of a negative GDP and losing 750,000 jobs a month as we were doing 5 years ago.
    Enough factors were listed to explain the numbers.
    Let's hope and pray for a change in the way the two ruling parties work together, the real impediment to further growth IMHO .



    That was a temporary trend that should have been completely corrected by now.

    Why do you imply that the numbers you state were a long term thing?
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    So, one vote for the economy is horrible, and it is the fault of immigration ?
    AND a lack of birth control?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That figure is close to the figure on bls.gov site which listed job openings as 3.9 million in October. It also doesn't say what type of jobs or where. But the number is pretty valid on its own.


    Probably not that great. Half of the 75 or so thousand filled jobs in December were not full time.

    As long as the Ideologues in DC actively campaign against the creation of jobs, we are screwed.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Relocating a family is not free. Yes, the cost involved to continually move to "Where the work is at" is going to be exceedingly difficult for people with very little to no income that are struggling just to pay the bills they have.

    Somehow you think that a family with an underwater mortgage is just going to be able to uproot and move to a new location free of cost and start magically working. Doesn't work that way.

    That doesn't even include what a cost to "retrain" would be. The fantasy is those thinking that people can just switch jobs and move their entire family at a drop of ahat free of charge. And you would have to think it is free of charge, otherwise where are they going to get the money to relocate and retrain in the first place?
    No, relocating a family isn't free, but then a better temporary model might be that one of the parents go to where the job is, live in an apartment and send checks home to support the family, at least on a temporary basis, until the mortgage situation can be resolved, perhaps through a short sale. Illegal immigrants do this all the time, and even across a national border.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's your problem then, but even the right as a whole doesn't dispute the BLS numbers. If you choose to ignore reality, that's on you not me.
    Problem being is that what everyone thinks is unemployment is reported by the BLS as the U6 number, which last I recall was running around 12-15%, and the official number is the what? U3?

    Frankly, I think that the U6 number is far more accurate and representative of the unemployment situation, and I don't know the reasoning for the official use of the U3 number instead.

    Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

    Measure Not seasonally adjusted Seasonally adjusted
    Dec.
    2012
    Nov.
    2013
    Dec.
    2013
    Dec.
    2012
    Aug.
    2013
    Sept.
    2013
    Oct.
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    Nov.
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    U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force 4.2 3.7 3.5 4.3 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.7 3.6
    U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force 4.3 3.5 3.5 4.2 3.8 3.7 4.0 3.7 3.5
    U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate) 7.6 6.6 6.5 7.9 7.2 7.2 7.2 7.0 6.7
    U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers 8.3 7.1 7.0 8.5 7.8 7.7 7.7 7.4 7.2
    U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 9.2 7.9 7.9 9.4 8.6 8.6 8.6 8.2 8.1
    U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force 14.4 12.7 13.0 14.4 13.6 13.6 13.7 13.1 13.1
    NOTE: Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule. Updated population controls are introduced annually with the release of January data.
    Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Take your pick.

    Isn't the US population growing by about 247,000 monthly?
    That's the last number that I heard, which puts the 74,000 for December into a real perspective, as to how far and how fast the job growth is falling behind.

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    So, one vote for the economy is horrible, and it is the fault of immigration ?
    I only extrapolated the monthly growth based on the 2000 and 2010 census numbers.

    Are you suggesting that the US would have a zero population growth rate if not for immigration?

    Next question...

    Are you speaking of legal immigration, or illegal immigration? Maybe both?

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    How many of you have looked for a job in the last 6-8 years or so?

    Some of you seem out of touch.

    Everything is online. And 98% of the postings you see online (monster, career builder, job fox, Craig's list, etc) are no longer active...they've been filled, or the job no longer exists. Of the remaining 2%, half are scams. 1 out of over 1,000 listings or so is an actual, boba fife job. And if the posting is over 2 days old...you're too late.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm tired of hearing about the drop in the unemployment rate as a "positive sign". Liberals will spin anything. The effective unemployment rate is closer to 20 percent, and far higher in certain regions.

    92 million people in the U.S. are not working. Period. Whatever the various reasons, they aren't. And Democrats want to "up the punishment" for those that are working by raising their taxes more and more.

    A workforce this out of work can't sustain a government hell-bent on spending wildly beyond its means.


    In september of 2008, the Democrat Establishment called the economy the worst one since the Great Depression.

    In that month, that month was by no means a great economy, the participation rate was 66.0%, the ratio of employed to the population was 66% and 145,255,000 had jobs.

    The clock turns and the government types have made various improvements. Now the participation rate is down to 62.8%, the rate of emp to Population is down to 58.6% and the number of employed is down to 144,586,000.

    All of the meaningful measures are worse. How much lipstick do we have for this pig?

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you guys know the drill. the economy is (awesome!) (horrible!), and it is the (accomplishment) (failure) of (___________.)
    Thank God, we can blame Obama for this and not Mitt Romney.

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