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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The administration doesn't author the jobs figures though. No administration does.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Erm.. LOL? Your claim that those who have become discouraged outnumber those who have found employment by a 3 to 1 margin is plainly wrong. You also seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of exactly what these figures represent.


    What exactly do these figures represent?
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Ahh, wouldn't it be nice if the number of discouraged workers were actually zero? *sigh* That's be very nice. Totally unrealistic, but it'd still be nice.


    If the discouraged workers suddenly started to look for work, the unemployment rate would be at a least up to 11%.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Businesses usually hire additional seasonal employees in December for the holidays. That 47,000 new hire number seems very low to me for a national count. It will be interesting to see the January figure.

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    "Seasonally Adjusted".

    The original data is gathered by use of a survey like who will you vote for. Then through a complex formula, the seasonal variations are smoothed out. Christmas hiring should not have any impact on this.

    By the time the numbers come out the other end of the little process, they no longer bear any resemblance to reality.

    That's why the population can be up by about 13.5 million, the employed can be down by about 3/4 of a million and the unemployment rate stays just about the same.

    The numbers are meaningless after the various adjustments have taken place.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please tell us why it is smarter to work part time and realize less money


    It's not on a personal level.

    That is why the unemployed continue to accept unemployment rather than lower themselves to take a job that is beneath them.

    When the table is full, there are many problems. When the table is empty, there is one problem.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    WTH. In CT, auto techs make 10-12 an hour, and then there is usually one senior on staff that MIGHT make over 20 an hour...after having been there for years.

    It's a crap field around here, I know, because I looked into it. I'm pretty handy with cars. Sounds pretty good where you're at. Maybe it's due to competition? Up here, it's mostly chains, or dealerships. Think meineki, or the like. Not a lot of mom and pops. Used to be a lot, but most have gone under. Machining is where the monies at in auto work, around here.
    It comes down to how good you are. I'm an A.S.E. L1 Master with 26 years experience, which makes my opportunities few and far between in the open market. Not too many employers looking for someone at this level. But I know transmission specialists who make this kind of money too. At this point in my career I'd prefer to diagnose and run the business and let someone else swing the hammers. I learned most of what I know working in a small family shop in Warrenville Illinois for 7 years. That kind of training is hard to find these days. I have a good friend who is a machinist, he has an apprentice too. We really need to go back to this kind of education.

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then why are you griping about people choosing the smart option


    What allows the option is the extended unemployment benefit eligibility term.

    We are in the 5th year of the recovery.

    How long will this emergency response be required?
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    From the day Obama was elected, a good chunk of conservative America decided that he'd be a complete failure in every possible way, and anything that contradicts that, in any way, must be false. They live in ****ing fantasy land. And I don't even LIKE Obama.
    Having a conversation with a friend the other night and they were bitching about Obama. I said " who ever doesn't complain about the President" as if the President is not just a soundig board for own trials and tribulations.

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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    We interrupt your regularly scheduled partisan talking points to bring you these facts:


    And now back to your regularly scheduled partisan programming...


    It really shouldn't be. The employer mandate was delayed until…

    wait for it…

    after the election.
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    Re: U.S. economy adds just 74,000 jobs in December

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    We're not hemorrhaging hundreds of thousands of jobs like we were at the end of 2008/beginning of 2009?


    Or like 1929.

    What's your point?
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