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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Will only get worse if the US isolationists get their way.
    I agree with this. The absence of a US presence in the world is more Russin/Chinese influence and more terrorists.

    Appeasement does not work with these guys, kinetic energy does. We now have the relative luxury of UAV bases throughout Africa and Asia, but that doesent matter if our POTUS is a chump.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    If your women and kids get in the way, raise your hand during the next planning session, or find another hut to live in.
    That's exaclty what conservatives are complaining about Obama NOW, collatoral damage.

    It would seem conservatives only want to kill brown people when it's a Republican in charge.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    All I said was that American politicians and the military administration of the past 14 years cannot be held a 100% accountable for each new base of terror created for al quaida.
    Fair enough. And pray tell what nation are you from?

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    I guess if Obama's job title is President of the World then he is indeed doing a terrible job.
    As POTUS he's taking credit for things that are demonstrably false.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fair enough. And pray tell what nation are you from?
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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Its a great country where we are all free and you are entitled to your opinion; even if it is wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually the invasion of Iraq probably did the most to spread Al Qaeda into Iraq.

    Syria is in a civil war...what exactly should the President be doing? Supporting a dictator? Support a rebellion that has known jihadist?

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Many have said for years that the "War on terror" does little more than incite more terrorism and provide a catalyst for recruiting more hatred towards the west.

    Perhaps the multiple wars started by Bush, and carried on through Obama are in fact doing MORE harm than good.

    The more f'n people the USofA kills the more enemies we make.

    What we need is FAR MORE ISOLATIONISM.


    We need to pull our people, all people, out of foreign lands and bring them home.

    We can defend our shores from within our borders and not create more hatred by occupying other lands and killing people who aren't a direct threat to our national security.

    Our foreign policies, through both parties, and multiple presidents is causing us great harm.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually the invasion of Iraq probably did the most to spread Al Qaeda into Iraq.

    Syria is in a civil war...what exactly should the President be doing? Supporting a dictator? Support a rebellion that has known jihadist?
    He's supposedly SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O ****ing brilliant, it should be a piece of cake for him to figure out. Especially with foreign policy genius, Joe Biden.
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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's exaclty what conservatives are complaining about Obama NOW, collatoral damage.

    It would seem conservatives only want to kill brown people when it's a Republican in charge.
    Well, if you're going to go all in, why not run with the liberal/progressive meme, and suggest they'd want to kill brown people regardless of who is in office.

    Pretty worthless post I'm commenting to. I'm thinking I'll probably have to give myself a time out for doing so.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama has been on the wrong side in Iran, Syria, and Egypt (even if Assad isnt a great guy-he's preferable to these islamists).
    Ehh....

    Iran-People were calling for military strike or even invasion of Iran. As of now...a person has been elected that has been pursuing a thawing of relations with the US. What should he of done? A more hawkish stance could of potentially involved us in yet another middle east war.
    Syria- It's either back the regime or back the rebellion. Both are problematic.
    Egypt-So he should of supported Assad against a popular protest?

    Obama's policy has failed to curtail AQ despite them being enemy #1 in the war on terror. AQ terrorists still roam around Kenya, Libya, Philippines, and so on. Its why Bush has a higher approval rating AROUND THE WORLD, including the ME.
    They were roaming those areas under Bush. Obama has expanded drone strikes in those countries and expanded programs where we work with governments to get those guys. I'm not sure what else he could do or how his policies are any different than Bush's.

    He RAN FOR REELECTION on saying OQ was on the run. His appeasement policies dont work. His Russian reset button hasn't worked. I could go on and on.
    AQ will never be wiped out. Terrorism will never be wiped out. The US strategy is to use drone strikes and work with other countries to keep these guys on the run and from establishing the sort of network they had pre-9/11. You can definitely get some weapons and cause problems while hiding but you can't organize the sort of attacks they did when they had a formal base of operation. . I'm not sure exactly what the expectation is. A lot of the events you criticize him are things that would of happened regardless of president.

    I'm not sure what you would propose or how he messed up in Iran, Syria, (you explained Egypt), Libya, or the states that have terrorist running wild. Maybe some alternatives to his policies would help out. Maybe just criticizing the Presidents every move works in some circles but I haven't seen much of a response on what he should do...other than Bomb Iran, send arms to the Syrian rebels, Support Assad (and conservatives were not saying this during the protests)...and nothing on what he should be doing elsewhere.
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