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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    travis~!!!
    Nice biased source, eh?

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    US foreign policy in the ME for two decades has been a destabilising force and has given rise to extremists. Perpetual war feeds the MIC machine.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fair enough. And pray tell what nation are you from?
    His name is "The German". Obviously, he's from Zimbabwe.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Sure...but one thing I want to point out that would of affected any administration in office right now.

    As long as I've been alive the ME has been a hectic place but due to invasions and popular uprising the ME has become more destabilized than it has in my memory. Couple that with the fact that the US was probably least flexible in dealing with the problems due to occupying countries and a massive financial disaster. Even if you believe that the President has tons of influence over these events you can't argue that in a time of massive upheaval in the ME he's had sufficient flexibility to deal with it.
    As I said, I hardly hold Obama responsible for what is going on in the ME, but presidents can still deal with chaotic situations and have a visible plan. Just look at both bushes and clinton, reagon, or any other president that has dealt with less than ideal foreign policy scenerios. Surely at times things can get messed up and hectic (clinton in Somalia/rwanda) but at some point there forms a coherent policy.

    If i had to point to a reason why such hasn't happened with this administration, I would point to the reason for most of it's failings, from the health care debate, to it's inaction on "too big to fail": they rather do nothing than risk bad press. Hell, during his first term we basically had H Clinton acting as the main personality pushing foreign policy issues, sometimes in direct contradiction to the hand's off approach of the larger Obama admin

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    As I said, I hardly hold Obama responsible for what is going on in the ME, but presidents can still deal with chaotic situations and have a visible plan. Just look at both bushes and clinton, reagon, or any other president that has dealt with less than ideal foreign policy scenerios. Surely at times things can get messed up and hectic (clinton in Somalia/rwanda) but at some point there forms a coherent policy.

    If i had to point to a reason why such hasn't happened with this administration, I would point to the reason for most of it's failings, from the health care debate, to it's inaction on "too big to fail": they rather do nothing than risk bad press. Hell, during his first term we basically had H Clinton acting as the main personality pushing foreign policy issues, sometimes in direct contradiction to the hand's off approach of the larger Obama admin
    Some good points. Something being overlooked in all the focus of Robert Gate's criticism of Obama in his book is his praise for Obama having narrowed the objectives for Iraq, namely that he didn't share the Bush view that western style governance could be effectively imposed there or elsewhere in the region.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    50,000-500,000 all terrorists in the world.
    'How many terrorists are there?' | The Brunei Times
    Travis007's source is indeed highly biased, and upon closer reading looks like bs - though the Pew poll is nice.

    But, your source isn't better;
    For the intentions of this column, I am going to assume that the sum total of all (loosely defined) terrorists worldwide, stands at 500,000. This is not a real number, and the actual figure probably hovers around 50,000 ...

    And for the intention of my own post here I would assume that hat the sum total of all (loosely defined) terrorists worldwide, stands at 5. This is not a real number, and the actual figure probably hovers around 1. lol

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    His name is "The German". Obviously, he's from Zimbabwe.
    Occams razor.

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Travis007's source is indeed highly biased, and upon closer reading looks like bs - though the Pew poll is nice.

    But, your source isn't better;
    For the intentions of this column, I am going to assume that the sum total of all (loosely defined) terrorists worldwide, stands at 500,000. This is not a real number, and the actual figure probably hovers around 50,000 ...

    And for the intention of my own post here I would assume that hat the sum total of all (loosely defined) terrorists worldwide, stands at 5. This is not a real number, and the actual figure probably hovers around 1. lol

    Got anything better?

    Fallen.
    Tell me Fallen, how many are there?

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Tell me fallen how many are there?
    Just told you... between 5-1, and that's including me....and that's what I assume.

    Now how about providing another source, instead of a one that just "assumes" things?

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    Re: Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Just told you... between 5-1, and that's including me....and that's what I assume.

    Now how about providing another source, instead of a one that just "assumes" things?

    Fallen.
    Well then. If theres only 6, we have even less of a problem than I perceived. The moral to this story is that nobody knows. Checked the state departments official on this and they don't even have hard numbers. So to state that there's "millions" is not realistic. How about taking that up with travis!

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