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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    You don't go to war, to win hearts and minds. You go to war to beat the living **** out of the enemy and his supporters, to the point where they no longer have the will to resist. That strategy worked during WW2, on the Japanese and the Germans. After we go through them, they might have hated us, but they were too beat down to act on that hatred.

    People don't like getting bombed? Then, they should stop allowing terrorists to live among them. If they won't do that, then I say bomb them even more, because they probably hated us anyway.
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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

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    And, what, innocent people aren't killed every day here?

    You think someone killing innocent people makes it ok for us to kill innocent people? You think there are any circumstances in which an innocent person is ok with an American bomb killing their innocent child?
    You think those people didn't already hate us, before we bombed them?
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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You think those people didn't already hate us, before we bombed them?
    I think the bombing increases the number of people who hate us. If Canada blew up your kid because they were aiming at bad guys, do you think that might alter your perception of Canada?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think the bombing increases the number of people who hate us. If Canada blew up your kid because they were aiming at bad guys, do you think that might alter your perception of Canada?
    We wouldn't enable or harbor terrorists. If we had people in our midst that were crossing the border and blowing stuff up in Canada we would capture them and export their butts over to Canada so Canada wouldn't have to go after them themselves. We don't harbor criminals.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think the bombing increases the number of people who hate us. If Canada blew up your kid because they were aiming at bad guys, do you think that might alter your perception of Canada?
    I wouldn't allow the bad guys that close to my kids. Canada wouldn't have to blow them up, because I would kill them myself.
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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    We wouldn't enable or harbor terrorists. If we had people in our midst that were crossing the border and blowing stuff up in Canada we would capture them and export their butts over to Canada so Canada wouldn't have to go after them themselves. We don't harbor criminals.
    Terrorists and criminals live in this country. Somebody is harboring them.

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    I wouldn't allow the bad guys that close to my kids. Canada wouldn't have to blow them up, because I would kill them myself.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't go to war, to win hearts and minds. You go to war to beat the living **** out of the enemy and his supporters, to the point where they no longer have the will to resist. That strategy worked during WW2, on the Japanese and the Germans. After we go through them, they might have hated us, but they were too beat down to act on that hatred.

    People don't like getting bombed? Then, they should stop allowing terrorists to live among them. If they won't do that, then I say bomb them even more, because they probably hated us anyway.
    The 9/11 hijackers lived among us. Why did you let them? Why didn't you kill them?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 9/11 hijackers lived among us. Why did you let them? Why didn't you kill them?
    The difference that you don't get, is that they weren't living among us as known terrorists. They were just ordinary people.
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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Terrorists and criminals live in this country. Somebody is harboring them.



    Does a group as powerful as the Taliban operate inside the United States?
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    Re: How hard is it to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan? Very hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't go to war, to win hearts and minds. You go to war to beat the living **** out of the enemy and his supporters, to the point where they no longer have the will to resist. That strategy worked during WW2, on the Japanese and the Germans. After we go through them, they might have hated us, but they were too beat down to act on that hatred.

    People don't like getting bombed? Then, they should stop allowing terrorists to live among them. If they won't do that, then I say bomb them even more, because they probably hated us anyway.
    That's such a calloused attitude. You wish to bomb people in the vicinity of other people that are alleged to be our enemy because they too "PROBABLY" hate us. Only one in five people (some put the estimates higher) that are killed by drones are "alleged enemy combatants". How do you sleep at night. This is a moral outrage. Someone on the ground (CIA assets or whoever the hell they are) provides information that there's bad guys (terrorists) in a a house/building at these coordinates and some guy setting in a CIA building on the 10th floor in Miami flys a drone over and drops a missile down the chimney. Sorry, grandma and two babies plus a couple cats were in there, SORRY, collateral damage. They shouldn't have let the terrorist in. Some of these guys chop your head off or pull your heart out and eat it. But old men and young women and children are at fault because they won't stop letting them live among them, they should run them out. It's too bad there isn't a god. The perpetrators of these crimes against humanity will have to receive their punishments, some other way.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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