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rcart76 said:
Not sure where you lean, but I'm am calling bulls*** on many on the right. Any conservative who defends Christie on this and hammered Obama on the so called IRS scandal is full of it plan and simple.
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^ What he said.
 
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Press conference at 11 eastern as per morning Joe .
 
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justabubba said:
if an amplified yee-haw could de-rail Howard Dean's effort, then this should be found the death knell to christie's campaign for the presidency
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Whenever I think of Howard Dean the first thing that pops into my mind is that video of him with that screeching yell. It was just a microphone with the volume up max that brought it up to a siren level but it stuck to him like glue. As trivial as it was I believe that cost him the nomination.

A politician's career is so fragile that can be tossed at the slightest infraction. Another example was Dukasis riding in that tank which was a pathetic photo op.

This abuse of power will stick to Christie for the rest of his political life. Done, the cows are out of the barn.

Now many here are playing the old game when one party member gets caught with his pants down in a sexual tryst they quickly bring out that googled list of the other party's sexual deviants but that isn't going to save Christie. Nice try though.
 
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Crosscheck said:
Now many here are playing the old game when one party member gets caught with his pants down in a sexual tryst they quickly bring out that googled list of the other party's sexual deviants but that isn't going to save Christie. Nice try though.
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I don't think that is something the average voter even responds to. Hell, most probably don't even know who those people are.
 
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Pretty good piece here on it that breaks it down a bit:

Concluding:

And if he did smell a rat and just stopped asking questions so he wouldn’t know, he is in essence part of the cover-up. In any case, the reputation he has built for himself—a man of no-nonsense, let-the-chips-fall-where-they-may action—would have suggested that he’d have wanted to get to the bottom of this himself long before now. That he didn’t and has been doing the usual tawdry dance that politicians do in this circumstance is another incriminating indicator.


He can fire Bridget Kelly and a few other people today, or soon, and try to take charge of this. He can demand an investigation. But the fact that he hasn’t done that already is suspicious. Remember the hurricane-era Christie? My state and my people come first, the hell with the politics. That was laudable. But his posture here has been the direct opposite. Here it’s been politics first. He’s not completely knocked out by this yet. There seems a good chance he will be knocked out by it. But even if he’s not, that old Christie is tarnished forever.
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Christie: Three Possibilities (Two Require That He Resign) - The Daily Beast
 
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sangha said:
There was no study
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Yup. As I said earlier. It was all made up. Yet curiously, Christie went along with the Study angle.

Meet The Eight People Who Are Ruining Chris Christie's Week

Patrick Foye, Executive Director Of The Port Authority Of New York And New Jersey

An appointee of New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, his role is small, but crucial: He testified before a legislative committee that no traffic study had been planned, contradicting the excuse offered up by Christie allies.
 
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The Christie people are trying to fight back

8 Jan 2014
Former Port Authority exec files lawsuit to quash subpoena in GWB probe : page all - NorthJersey.com

David Wildstein, the executive at the center of the decision to close lanes at the entrance to the George Washington Bridge, filed a lawsuit in superior court today trying to quash the Legislature's subpoena of his testimony, according to a spokesperson for the court.

The lawsuit said the subpoena is invalid for a number of reasons. Wildstein's lawyer, Alan Zegas, questioned the validity of Assemblyman John Wisniewski's signature on the subpoena.
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Who is David Wildstein?
Bridge scandal: Meet Chris Christie and the other major players | NJ.com

DAVID WILDSTEIN
Former director of interstate capital projects at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
Wildstein met Christie when they were classmates in Livingston High School in the late 1970s. He served as Livington’s mayor from 1987 to 1988, and then left elected office to join the family floor mat manufacturing business. In 2000, Wildstein secretly founded the New Jersey political news site PoliticsNJ.com — now PolitickerNJ.com. He used the pen name Wally Edge, which he took from the former New Jersey governor and U.S. senator whose support led to the creation of the Port Authority in 1921. Wildstein’s identity was revealed in 2010 when he was hired as director of interstate capital projects at the Port Authority, a $150,020-a-year position that had no job description. Wildstein, 52, resigned in December amid the GWB scandal.
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3 Mar 2012
Ex-blogger is Governor Christie's eyes, ears inside the Port Authority : page all - NorthJersey.com

For a decade, he was a faceless force in New Jersey politics, an Internet blogger who delivered scoops while keeping his identity a closely guarded secret.

Now, David Wildstein, formerly known by the pen name Wally Edge, is playing a key behind-the-scenes role in Governor Christie’s effort to get more control over the Port Authority, the bi-state transportation agency that has come under increased scrutiny since raising bridge and tunnel tolls in September.
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And in Wildstein, an experienced political strategist who went to high school with the governor, the Christie administration may have found the perfect instrument to help shake things up, some say.

Longtime employees, however, privately describe a man intent on carrying out a political agenda rather than one built on reform or improving the region’s transportation system. They believe the appointment of Wildstein and dozens of others recommended by the governor — for jobs ranging from toll collector to deputy executive director — are evidence that political loyalty trumps merit.
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reinoe said:
Ambulances couldn't get people to hospitals. I wonder if anyone actually died in transit?
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One person did. But apparently, she was a Democrat, so according to Christies aides it was 'OK'.

This issue may finish Christie in national politics. He won't get a pass from the media when he starts berating some teacher or nurse who questions him anymore. The amusing bully aspect of his persons just turned real and petty, and if he doesn't do some amazing damage control he will be forever stained.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I don't think that is something the average voter even responds to. Hell, most probably don't even know who those people are.
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Exactly. The average voter will only remember that it was Christie who used his powers to create traffic gridlock. Just as the only thing the average voter can remember about Howard Dean is his ear piercing screech.

Christie is in a no win situation. If he admits to engineering this plan then he is looked as another politician just out for himself. If he denies it then he is believed to probably thowing his staff under the bus to save his hide. He really doesn't have a viable option.
 
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A life was lost as a result so those responsible must be held accountable.

Other thoughts:
What do you expect from the Soprano State?
Would this be news if Christie was not a potential candidate for president?
 
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Woodman909 said:
A life was lost as a result so those responsible must be held accountable.

Other thoughts:
What do you expect from the Soprano State?
Would this be news if Christie was not a potential candidate for president?
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This would be local/state news, for sure.

But the killer is that this happened BECAUSE he was a candidate. He didn't need an endorsement from a local mayor when he was 30 points above in the polls. But he wanted the biggest landslide possible to prove to 2016 voters that he could overwhelmingly carry a blue state.

That's why it's so amazingly petty and vindictive. And it's a good assumption Christie was OZk with petty and vindictive payback in his top aides. That's a bad sign....Really Nixonian.
 
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Woodman909 said:
A life was lost as a result so those responsible must be held accountable.


Would this be news if Christie was not a potential candidate for president?
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I think so, simply because of the location of the bridge in question. A bridge shut down in Missouri would not have the same effect upon those national media types who live in New Jersey and must cross the bridge into Manhattan for work.
 
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rcart76 said:
Not sure where you lean, but I'm am calling bulls*** on many on the right. Any conservative who defends Christie on this and hammered Obama on the so called IRS scandal is full of it plan and simple.
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It's not a result of any lean or a defense of anyone to point out that you mistakenly said the bridge was closed or that no one (yet) knows the level of involvement of Christie. I lean where I said I leaned on the issue. If he's directly involved or even indirectly involved, I'll rip into him hardcore. Pretty simple, really.
 
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Hillary Clinton & Benghazi or Chris Christie & diverting traffic on a bridge in Jersey. You choose you intelligent American voters.
 
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rhinefire said:
Hillary Clinton & Benghazi or Chris Christie & diverting traffic on a bridge in Jersey. You choose you intelligent American voters.
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Choose between an imaginary scandal and an as-yet uninvestigated one? I think we'll see how the Christie thing plays out, but its not looking good for him.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Choose between an imaginary scandal and an as-yet uninvestigated one? I think we'll see how the Christie thing plays out, but its not looking good for him.
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"Imaginary" yet no denial only "What difference does it make now"? was her only defense.
 
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rhinefire said:
"Imaginary" yet no denial only "What difference does it make now"? was her only defense.
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a defense is not required if one did nothing wrong
but your posts are taking us away from the thread topic, which is christie's involvement in the bridge scandal

it's disappointing
in a matchup between christie and hillary i was prepared to vote christie
unless he can make a convincing case why he is in no way culpable, his future political prospects are as gone as the dozen donuts that arrived in his office an hour ago
 
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rhinefire said:
Hillary Clinton & Benghazi or Chris Christie & diverting traffic on a bridge in Jersey. You choose you intelligent American voters.
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In THIS specific thread, I'll choose "Chris Christie & diverting traffic on a bridge in Jersey(sic)" The bridge is over the Hudson River so it runs between New Jersey and New York.

Talk about Clinton and Benghazi in one of the many threads covering that subject - otherwise you are simply trying to divert attention away from this topic.
 
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justabubba said:
a defense is not required if one did nothing wrong
but your posts are taking us away from the thread topic, which is christie's involvement in the bridge scandal

it's disappointing
in a matchup between christie and hillary i was prepared to vote christie
unless he can make a convincing case why he is in no way culpable, his future political prospects are as gone as the dozen donuts that arrived in his office an hour ago
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The linked article from the Daily Beast a few posts ago nailed it.

It said:
Remember the hurricane-era Christie? My state and my people come first, the hell with the politics. That was laudable. But his posture here has been the direct opposite. Here it’s been politics first.
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Thats why moderates like myself tended to like Christie. But stuff like this tells us that his abrasive style is not just a quirky Jerseyness - its endemic to his operation.

The hard core conservatives never liked him anyway, except to draw guys like me to vote for their side. Now that thats in doubt, they'll drop him like a hot potato.
 
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justabubba said:
you have to be kidding
christies denied any staff involvement only for us to learn that his own spokesmodel was in the email chain

as a presidential candidate he will be found either incompetent or a liar. each voter will get to choose. hardly the virtues of someone seeking the highest office in the land
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Interesting to note (but hardly surprising) that Christie, a moderate Republican, is held to these standards, and yet, Obama, is not.

justabubba said:
it's always the coverup
the American public is willing to forgive a mistake. but the politician has to acknowledge it
it is clear this was something christie thought he could keep from being found out
he screwed the pooch on this one
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Frankly, the BLSM is desperate to cover ANYTHING besides ObamaCare, and this is as good a distraction as any, and falls right in their political agenda with the meme 'Christie abuses government power'.

When it wasn't him to made the call, it was one of his subordinates.
When he didn't order it, it was the subordinates.

Already rumors are floating around that the subordinate is going to get chastised by Christie, probably even fired.

See? That's how accountability works. Something we've never seen from this president, nor his administration.

Who knows. Depending on how Christie handles this, it may very well elevate him in popular opinion above this president (presently at historic record lows).

No telling what the Biased Lame Stream Media will do to continue to flog the issue in accordance with the demands of their ideologically driven reporting.
 
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David Corn ‏@DavidCornDC Points for Christie if he starts presser: "I had a job, I had a girl I had something going mister in this world."

:lol:
 
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The German said:
I doubt that, a forum on which you cant call people out isnt worth being on.

Let`s just resolve this issue once and for all.

I dont believe that you are a nazi, I simply throw that word in when someone consideres a group of people to be infirior.

I misinterpreted your post and believed that you saw all in opposition to yourself as individuals with infirior thinking capacity.
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Where in the world did you get the idea that everyone is equal in every way. There are certainly some who are inferior to others. It doesn't necessarily mean they have lower IQ's; it includes not only intelligence but also common sense. For instance, some may think that a country that starts two world wars and loses both of them inferior to countries who make better decisions. I'm not saying that I subscribe to this notion, but some might.
 
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Rocketman said:
and you guys have to whine about bridge closures against anyone that disagrees with Obama. The wind is blowing today, thanks Christie:lamo:lamo
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Except that there is evidence that his advisors had something to do with it....I mean, I know you don't care because you'll be voting for him to be President in a couple of years, but still.

Obamacare, on the other hand, is irrelevant to this thread.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Interesting to note (but hardly surprising) that Christie, a moderate Republican, is held to these standards, and yet, Obama, is not.



Frankly, the BLSM is desperate to cover ANYTHING besides ObamaCare, and this is as good a distraction as any, and falls right in their political agenda with the meme 'Christie abuses government power'.

When it wasn't him to made the call, it was one of his subordinates.
When he didn't order it, it was the subordinates.

Already rumors are floating around that the subordinate is going to get chastised by Christie, probably even fired.

See? That's how accountability works. Something we've never seen from this president, nor his administration.

Who knows. Depending on how Christie handles this, it may very well elevate him in popular opinion above this president (presently at historic record lows).

No telling what the Biased Lame Stream Media will do to continue to flog the issue in accordance with the demands of their ideologically driven reporting.
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So if negative news comes out against a Republican, it's the media's fault?

There's personal responsibility for you.
 
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