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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    But inasmuch as he was governor at the time and didn't investigate the bridge shutdown, it shows his disinterest in accountability.

    If you're trying to convince me that Hillary Clinton is the devil don't bother. I can't imagine the circumstance I would vote for her. Hillary Clinton is not the topic of the thread though.
    On the contrary, I think Christie's actions throughout this episode have shown him in a very positive light in terms of accountability. I don't think HC is the devil; I was merely illustrating how Christie can use this episode to his advantage.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I think this just goes to show you how you really can't 100% trust people. People you rub shoulders with daily who you almost consider your friend you just would't expect them to do something like this.

    The real shocker is that this wasn't a lone wolf project. At least one other if not more were more than willing to join in. You would think someone with an IQ higher that a soapdish would of spoke up and said, " I don't know guys, this is going to come back and bite us in the butt".
    Most politicians don't think things through. They do what seems like a good idea at the time. Or they do something that they think will attract voters, pay back the opposite party, but thinking these things through and realizing what some of the consequences are isn't in a politicians nature. Perhaps it is if I might get away with it, I'll do it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    On the contrary, I think Christie's actions throughout this episode have shown him in a very positive light in terms of accountability. I don't think HC is the devil; I was merely illustrating how Christie can use this episode to his advantage.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That was a big story when it broke, but there has really been nothing new so it has fizzled. If there is nothing new here, this story will do the same. But if there were an e-mail from an Obama deputy chief of staff to Lois Lerner saying "Time for some audits of Tea Party groups" we would still be talking about it. Personally, I think abuse at the IRS is a bigger scandal, but I get why this one has caught everyones attention. The issue is the same in both, however, abuse of governmental power.
    Yes, the IRS is a much, much bigger scandal than this bit of stupidity though those who trust Big Brother for their well being will continue to look the other way.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, the IRS is a much, much bigger scandal than this bit of stupidity though those who trust Big Brother for their well being will continue to look the other way.
    Christie and his fired staffers were part of Big Brother. Are you saying Republicans can't be trusted with government?
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Christie and his fired staffers were part of Big Brother. Are you saying Republicans can't be trusted with government?
    They are not "Big Brother". This is a fuss in New Jersey and nothing more.

    The Federal Government is Big Brother and the domestic spying and the IRS are just a part of it. The government can now also seize your property if they want it, exclude you from using it for your own purposes, and otherwise restrict your life in any way they deem fit. You seem unfamiliar with the source of the term.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are not "Big Brother". This is a fuss in New Jersey and nothing more.

    The Federal Government is Big Brother and the domestic spying and the IRS are just a part of it. The government can now also seize your property if they want it, exclude you from using it for your own purposes, and otherwise restrict your life in any way they deem fit. You seem unfamiliar with the source of the term.
    I'm aware that the state government can be just as corrupt and oppressive as the federal government and local corruption shouldn't be given a pass. Except this isn't a local issue, this is a national issue because it involved corruption that affected New York and New Jersey i.e. across multiple states.

    So yes this is a matter of "Big Brother" corruption.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    When one breaks down the 2012 election 97% in the presidential race went to either Romney or Obama while 3% to the other various third parties. The party affiliation bread down was 35% Democrat, 30% Republican. 33% independent, 2% third party. So 97% of independents ended up voting for one of the two major party candidates. There is a ton of reasons for this. The majority of Independents usually lean toward one party or the other. Those who do not and those who dislike both candidate usually hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. Why? Because the two major parties have ingrained into them that a vote for any third party candidate is a wasted vote, he can't win and those independents buy into this even if it means in their mind they are voting for a very bad candidate. But that bad candidate is the least worst candidate among the two major parties.

    Money for political ads/commercials of the two major parties drown out any third party candidate/s. In 2012 Romney raised and spent a billion dollars on his attempt to beat Obama, Obama in return also raised and spent a billion dollars to be re-elected. The next in line as far as money raised and spent was Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson who was only able to raise and spent 3 million. So what real chance did Johnson have? He was being outspent 2 billion to 3 million by the two major parties.

    Then there are the election laws, written by republicans and democrats as a mutual protection act. They write these laws to almost make it impossible for any viable third party to arise and challenge them. They have a monopoly on our election system and will do anything to keep it that way.

    In reality, there is no challenging them. I suppose one just has to hold their nose when they go vote. There is no such thing as a fair election in this country. Just legal ones.
    IF enough people could be convinced of this or similar views, perhaps we would get more votes for independent and 3rd-party candidates.

    I know it happens far more often at the local and even state levels of government - probably because of the smaller numbers that need convinced.

    But I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, the IRS is a much, much bigger scandal than this bit of stupidity though those who trust Big Brother for their well being will continue to look the other way.
    Yet look at how the Biased Lame Stream Media (BLSM) has bent the attention of everyone into the direction that they wanted.

    A compounding of the IRS scandal is Obama's appointment of an Obama donor to head the investigation, as if she's going to find anything that she doesn't want to see. Ba!

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yet look at how the Biased Lame Stream Media (BLSM) has bent the attention of everyone into the direction that they wanted.

    A compounding of the IRS scandal is Obama's appointment of an Obama donor to head the investigation, as if she's going to find anything that she doesn't want to see. Ba!

    Oh yes, let us look at how the Bridgegate scandal is being handled by one segment of the population and the media

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    Reading thru this thread, I would say that some posters seem to have checked off everyone of the instructions in the pic. Just following what their lords and masters have told them to do.
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