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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Everyone cannot relate to the IRS when they pay federal / state taxes? I would think people would relate MORE to the IRS targeting certain people and groups especially since every year we all (well, those of us who pay taxes) must bow to the IRS and send in our previous years accounting.
    The IRS "scandal" dealt with political groups that were applying for tax-free status. Since few people have tax-free status it's "No, most people can't relate to that"
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Everyone cannot relate to the IRS when they pay federal / state taxes? I would think people would relate MORE to the IRS targeting certain people and groups especially since every year we all (well, those of us who pay taxes) must bow to the IRS and send in our previous years accounting.
    That was a big story when it broke, but there has really been nothing new so it has fizzled. If there is nothing new here, this story will do the same. But if there were an e-mail from an Obama deputy chief of staff to Lois Lerner saying "Time for some audits of Tea Party groups" we would still be talking about it. Personally, I think abuse at the IRS is a bigger scandal, but I get why this one has caught everyones attention. The issue is the same in both, however, abuse of governmental power.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm picturing the political ads already: Voters in a miles long traffic jam, voice over telling us that Washington will be a huge traffic jam if we elect Christie, cars overheated and steaming, the country overheated and steaming, hey, I could write political ads!
    On commercial would go like this...
    "One person died in the traffic jam".
    "One million people will die if Christie is Elected."

    and another would go like this...
    "Chris Christie will sneak into your house and eat your food if elected president"
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That was a big story when it broke, but there has really been nothing new so it has fizzled. If there is nothing new here, this story will do the same. But if there were an e-mail from an Obama deputy chief of staff to Lois Lerner saying "Time for some audits of Tea Party groups" we would still be talking about it. Personally, I think abuse at the IRS is a bigger scandal, but I get why this one has caught everyones attention. The issue is the same in both, however, abuse of governmental power.
    Well the only new thing that has happened in the 7 months since President Obama declared he would hold people responsible, is that he's appointed a democratic donor to investigate it. Will I be surprised when no wrong doing is found? Nah... just par for the course.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    On commercial would go like this...
    "One person died in the traffic jam".
    "One million people will die if Christie is Elected."

    and another would go like this...
    "Chris Christie will sneak into your house and eat your food if elected president"
    Let's assume for the sake of argument that it's Christie vs Hillary Clinton. Commercial opens with Christie saying at press conference that he's accountable and takes responsibility. Cut to Hillary asking "What difference does it make?" Narrator then asks who you trust. Christie wins.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    With politicians it is party first. The staff of Christie apparently put Party over the people first.

    You are right that there is always the finger pointing of one party from the other party. The immediate response in these type of situations is by the party supporters is look what you guys have done.

    But only this time I can't remember anything brought to attention of us that someone deliberately caused a traffic jam for four fricking days. I know in sexual escapades it is real easy to find similiar offenses by the other party but in this event I can't remember another similiar event. This is something like the movie Animal House where they threw boxes of marbles onto the street to trip the ROTC cadets.

    So many party loyalists can't figure why this is talked about but the reason is that we have never seen this kind of action before. Am certain there have been other escapades such as changing precinct
    boundaries and such but nothing like this.

    I think his whole staff should be flushed down the cesspool.
    I think you're right. Fire them all and hire honest or at least semi ethical people. There is way too much vindictive politics today to suit my taste. How about find out the truth and move on.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Let's assume for the sake of argument that it's Christie vs Hillary Clinton. Commercial opens with Christie saying at press conference that he's accountable and takes responsibility. Cut to Hillary asking "What difference does it make?" Narrator then asks who you trust. Christie wins.
    Hillary Clinton is right on this one. What difference does it make? I wouldn't vote for either at the present time.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Hillary Clinton is right on this one. What difference does it make? I wouldn't vote for either at the present time.
    But inasmuch as she was SecState at the time, it shows her disinterest in accountability.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think you're right. Fire them all and hire honest or at least semi ethical people. There is way too much vindictive politics today to suit my taste. How about find out the truth and move on.

    I think this just goes to show you how you really can't 100% trust people. People you rub shoulders with daily who you almost consider your friend you just would't expect them to do something like this.

    The real shocker is that this wasn't a lone wolf project. At least one other if not more were more than willing to join in. You would think someone with an IQ higher that a soapdish would of spoke up and said, " I don't know guys, this is going to come back and bite us in the butt".

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But inasmuch as she was SecState at the time, it shows her disinterest in accountability.
    But inasmuch as he was governor at the time and didn't investigate the bridge shutdown, it shows his disinterest in accountability.

    If you're trying to convince me that Hillary Clinton is the devil don't bother. I can't imagine the circumstance I would vote for her. Hillary Clinton is not the topic of the thread though.
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