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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Pero.

    : on possible candidates. I think a lot will depend on the 2014 election outcome.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY today, my friend! Going to the Wat to celebrate?
    Thank You. No the wife took me out for lunch to a Thai restaurant. Yeah I too think 2014 will have a lot to do with 2016, especially if the Republicans somehow can take the senate. A 50-50 proposition at the moment. Personally I think we should be concentrating on 2014 instead of 2016. But I am happy talking about 2016, it is fun to speculate.

    But the election of 2014 could very well decide the ACA once and for all. Right now I give it a 50-50 chance of surviving or being repealed, which ever side you are on. We will probably know its chances one way or the other come late spring/early summer. The same for the senate.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I agree but would add that one of the reasons why he lost was that he didn't slide back to the middle after winning the GOP primaries. Instead he continued to be a champion of the right (maybe as compensation for his appearance as a flip-flopper) until the debates. By that time, the public's perception of him had been set in stone.
    I would say pretty much so. The Republican right never really accepted him. They didn't trust him. I seen that here in Georgia. Georgia stayed in the lean Romney category until around 2 weeks before the election meaning it was still in play but the republican had the advantage. There just wasn't the enthusiasm for him down here that you normally see. One could see plenty anti-Obama, but few pro-Romney. There were very few bumper stickers supporting Romney to be seen, you seen more bumper stickers with Obama's name on it with the O crossed out than ones with Romney's name on it. We Georgian's never trusted any politician from Massachusetts and Romney was no different.

    I think an exit poll conducted by ABC I think showed it all for Georgia. 71% of those who voted for Romney did so because they wanted Obama to lose, only 27% voted for Romney because they wanted him to win. The opposite was true for Obama, 73% of Georgia Obama voters voted for him because they wanted him to win, only 23% voted for Obama because they wanted Romney to lose. I guess the reason why didn't matter, but I think it showed the mindset of the voters down here and what most Republican voters thought of Romney. Any Tom, Dick or Harry would have gotten the same votes Romney did. The passion was on Obama's side, not Romney's. How this carried through the rest of the nation I do not know, but I would imagine the numbers weren't much different.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Thats the best you can do ?

    Make assumptions ? Romney Care was a State iniative, not a Federal inaitive.

    He wouldn't have had to worry about covering his ass when ObamaCare caused more and more misery and joblesness.

    It could have fixed it, gotten rid of it, whatever.
    Speaking of making assumptions, you assume that he would have gotten rid of Obamacare. To the contrary, he thought it was a great idea, at least when he did it. We'll never know for sure, but I kind of wish he had won so I could ask all the Repubbots when he would get around to it...


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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Speaking of making assumptions, you assume that he would have gotten rid of Obamacare. To the contrary, he thought it was a great idea, at least when he did it. We'll never know for sure, but I kind of wish he had won so I could ask all the Repubbots when he would get around to it...
    Had Romney won, ACA would have already been repealed, or at least rendered inoperative by the simple expedient of refusing to appropriate funds for it.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Speaking of making assumptions, you assume that he would have gotten rid of Obamacare. To the contrary, he thought it was a great idea, at least when he did it. We'll never know for sure, but I kind of wish he had won so I could ask all the Repubbots when he would get around to it...
    The reality of the situation is even if Romney won, he still couldn't have gotten rid of Obamacare. To do that the Republicans would have had to gain control of the senate and they didn't. They lost two seats. Senator Reid wouldn't bring any bill for the repeal to the floor. It wasn't a political reality. I think anyone with two cents worth of knowing politics could have told you that. Repealing Obamacare was impossible without the senate.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    He said he believed until yesterday that none of his people were involved, and I believe him. You have evidence he wasn't truthful?
    What does that have to do with him being accountable?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Had Romney won, ACA would have already been repealed, or at least rendered inoperative by the simple expedient of refusing to appropriate funds for it.
    That wouldn't actually change the law. The individual mandate would still apply, but with no subsidies. He wouldn't survive long after that - even Republican voters want their freebies.


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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The reality of the situation is even if Romney won, he still couldn't have gotten rid of Obamacare. To do that the Republicans would have had to gain control of the senate and they didn't. They lost two seats. Senator Reid wouldn't bring any bill for the repeal to the floor. It wasn't a political reality. I think anyone with two cents worth of knowing politics could have told you that. Repealing Obamacare was impossible without the senate.
    Exactly. No way it even gets a vote in the Senate. Romney and his bots seem to have forgotten that there's a Constitutional path to change laws, and there's no retroactive veto.


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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What does that have to do with him being accountable?
    He apologized and took immediate action once he understood the problem.
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    Re: Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy - [W:77,109]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That wouldn't actually change the law. The individual mandate would still apply, but with no subsidies. He wouldn't survive long after that - even Republican voters want their freebies.
    Non-funding would force Harry Reid to cave in the Senate and repeal would follow.
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