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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, what is your solution to the obvious problem
    you going to side with another forum member and deny the kid assistance because the child was born into an irresponsible family?
    It was a statement and I wasnt siding with either. In case you didnt notice, my response pretty much agreed with you.

    My solution is very expensive but the hope would be that it isnt permanent...that it could 'break the cycle.'

    Throw money at it...yup, our money, taxpayer money.

    Pay social workers and welfare inspectors *what they are worth* for the educations required and the incentive to put the effort in. So many get into it out of idealism, are paid poorly, and get burned out. We end up with uneducated, bureaucratic robots in those positions, or compassionate, exhausted, ineffective (without enough resources) ones.

    Pay for enough of them to babysit these people. Just a couple of families per case worker, so they can be checked on a few times a week at least. Finding jobs for them and ferrying them to job interviews.Ferrying them to job training. Preparing them. Providing hassle/cost-free day care until established.

    No letting anyone off the hook, nearly constant oversight.

    Very expensive...but maybe in 2 generations we can break that cycle. Do I like the idea of spending that money, my money? No, but as I said....I'd hope we could break that cycle and see real change.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It was a statement and I wasnt siding with either. In case you didnt notice, my response pretty much agreed with you.

    My solution is very expensive but the hope would be that it isnt permanent...that it could 'break the cycle.'

    Throw money at it...yup, our money, taxpayer money.

    Pay social workers and welfare inspectors *what they are worth* for the educations required and the incentive to put the effort in. So many get into it out of idealism, are paid poorly, and get burned out. We end up with uneducated, bureaucratic robots in those positions, or compassionate, exhausted, ineffective (without enough resources) ones.

    Pay for enough of them to babysit these people. Just a couple of families per case worker, so they can be checked on a few times a week at least. Finding jobs for them and ferrying them to job interviews.Ferrying them to job training. Preparing them. Providing hassle/cost-free day care until established.

    No letting anyone off the hook, nearly constant oversight.

    Very expensive...but maybe in 2 generations we can break that cycle. Do I like the idea of spending that money, my money? No, but as I said....I'd hope we could break that cycle and see real change.
    **** that.....

    It's not YOUR financial responsibility to train people to be human..

    "throw money at it"

    Yeah that is the progressive attitude..

    You know once that happens these creatures will just figure out a way to exploit that **** - oh yeah like child services hasn't already figured that **** out by holding children hostage for federal/state funding.

    "throwing money at it" will just create more bureaucracies, more unions and more people willing to step on others just for their salaries, job security and benefits, meanwhile the children will be fodder and used as such.

    Money doesn't solve these problems.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    **** that.....

    It's not YOUR financial responsibility to train people to be human..

    "throw money at it"

    Yeah that is the progressive attitude..

    You know once that happens these creatures will just figure out a way to exploit that **** - oh yeah like child services hasn't already figured that **** out by holding children hostage for federal/state funding.

    "throwing money at it" will just create more bureaucracies, more unions and more people willing to step on others just for their salaries, job security and benefits, meanwhile the children will be fodder and used as such.

    Money doesn't solve these problems.
    It is my opinion. I know that it will not be popular...nor do I care.

    The point of the $$ is to ultimately oversee & drive a change in behavior.

    Someone asked me for a solution.....and I gave them one. What is yours?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    1) lol @ the video being racist.

    2) I don't see the issue since they simply re-posted it. It was already made available for public viewing

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, what is your solution to the obvious problem
    you going to side with another forum member and deny the kid assistance because the child was born into an irresponsible family?
    Appeal to emotion fallacy.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The government wants more people on the tit because it gives them more control over people's lives. Being able to provide your own food, shelter, and general well being gives you a certain degree of autonomy. Part of what the software of PRISM does, according to its progenitor, is it seeks out people who talk about living off the grid. "Preppers" are targets as dissidents. The more people who need government, the less likely they are to rebel. The other part is that the U.S. has to save face because American exceptionalism won't look as appealing if we have millions of starving, dying people on the streets. (Well, it's already happening, but with welfare we can claim it isn't.)

    As for the race stuff... it's a vicious cycle. There is institutionalized white privilege at every level, including in the police force. The data on this is very clear. For the same crimes, blacks and hispanics always do more time despite the same sentencing guidelines. We also have a media establishment reporting on black crime way more even though it is proportionally lower these days. On the flipside of this, we have black communities who accept this indoctrination and feel some sense of twisted empowerment by playing up to the stereotype. Youth who try to take the genuinely successful route get called uncle toms and are ridiculed by their peers who have bought into the indoctrination. They act out and break the law, which incites police to profile them, when really there is just as much "white" crime happening. I think if the institutions weren't as racist, combined with black communities having better role modeling, there would be a lot of positive changes.

    I really love the show "The Boondocks". It's hilarious, and talks about all of this.
    There are a fairl amount of lefty myths that are readily discredited in your comments.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It is my opinion. I know that it will not be popular...nor do I care.

    The point of the $$ is to ultimately oversee & drive a change in behavior.

    Someone asked me for a solution.....and I gave them one. What is yours?
    Change wont come from the outside, and it wont come from the top down.


    Listen and learn about all the failed social engineering attempts of the left.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There are a fairl amount of lefty myths that are readily discredited in your comments.
    Well then feel free to discredit them. If all you've got is a drive-by dismissal then your post is worthless.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good luck with this kid when he reaches school...no respect, no discipline, destined for conflicting with authority and failure.
    But you know who will be responsible for when he fails in school. The teachers.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Police union responds to controversial, viral toddler video

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    But you know who will be responsible for when he fails in school. The teachers.
    Teachers are quick to ask for more when it comes to their best interests, despite claiming home issues.

    But lets not get too far off topic, this kid isnt even school age.

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