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    After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Wow, the original Snowden.


    Forty-three years after the mysterious theft of up to 1,000 documents from an FBI office outside Philadelphia, three former political activists are publicly confessing to the brazen burglary, calling it an act of “resistance” that exposed “massive illegal surveillance and intimidation.”

    “We did it … because somebody had to do it,” John Raines, 80, a retired professor of religion at Temple University, said in an interview with NBC News. “In this case, by breaking a law — entering, removing files — we exposed a crime that was going on. … When we are denied the information we need to have to act as citizens, then we have a right to do what we did.”

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...omestic-spying

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    And the infamous Church Committee was born out of this.

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Truth becomes treason in an empire of lies.

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Truth becomes treason in an empire of lies.
    That sounds familiar!

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    I'm glad there are brave patriots who have risked their freedom to bring information to the people about what the government is doing in our names. We need more people like this.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm glad there are brave patriots who have risked their freedom to bring information to the people about what the government is doing in our names. We need more people like this.
    What amazes me is that they pulled it off, distributed it through out the media, to the FBI's frustration, and they couldn't (the FBI for crying out loud!!) figure out who had done this, ever. And J E Hoover was NO slouch on such things.

    The other and best part is that the very civil liberty minded senator Church, defender of the anti Vietnam war crowd who considered them the highest patriots, took right to this, and didn't bother with HOW this material found the light of day, but an investigation was launched that culminated with a very detailed report to congress and a dire warning that unfortunately, was not heeded. And so we are at the same place again only worse due to advancements in technology. His 1976 report stated, such was technology that the government had devised a method by which there was NO communication they could not listen to, and if a so inclined president one day ever wished to, he could deploy a tyranny, inescapable by Americans.


    From his report:

    In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
    If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
    I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.[17][18][19]

    Frank Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    They never learn. The government wraps itself in the cloak of secrecy while invading the privacy of private citizens, but some day, someone will blow the whistle on those practices.

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    They never learn. The government wraps itself in the cloak of secrecy while invading the privacy of private citizens, but some day, someone will blow the whistle on those practices.
    Enter Edward Snowden! It's just a matter of whether or not Americans value their civil liberties enough to do something about it.

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Enter Edward Snowden! It's just a matter of whether or not Americans value their civil liberties enough to do something about it.
    The problem I have with portraying people like Snowden as heroes is that some people will leak classified information for nefarious reasons as well. Remember the outing of Valerie Plame?

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    Re: After 43 years, activists admit theft of FBI office that exposed domestic spying

    If, Espionage Against the People is not a crime, then neither should Espionage against our government, as a civil privilege and immunity.

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