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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Oh, it's so sad, such a cute little girl.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I would absolutely come do it after giving them time to say goodbye. Might even help them get over their denial.
    Yeah, you're all heart, I can tell. Since you've been the one talking about money, please don't act like you'd do anything out of concern for the family. You've made it clear, that's not your concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, you're all heart, I can tell. Since you've been the one talking about money, please don't act like you'd do anything out of concern for the family. You've made it clear, that's not your concern.
    Some people need to put themselves in this family's shoes, and imagine it was THEIR little girl. Oh sure, just pull the plug, easy peasy.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some people need to put themselves in this family's shoes, and imagine it was THEIR little girl. Oh sure, just pull the plug, easy peasy.
    Even better, "I'm gonna pull the plug, you got 10 minutes to say goodbye and I'm doing this out of concern for you. Ok, now move on."

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Even better, "I'm gonna pull the plug, you got 10 minutes to say goodbye and I'm doing this out of concern for you. Ok, now move on."
    The arrogance of some people is just astounding. As if they can know and dictate what is best for the family at a time like this. It's obvious that they don't understanding the grieving process and that acceptance that your loved one is gone forever and that you will never ever see that person again takes a little bit of time.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, you're all heart, I can tell. Since you've been the one talking about money, please don't act like you'd do anything out of concern for the family. You've made it clear, that's not your concern.
    If you'd like to volunteer to pay the hospital bills...

    I care more about the hypocrisy of it all, as i explained. Hospitals routinely treat the mentally ill and elderly and otherwise disabled like trash and boot them out at earliest convenience. I see no reason this should be an exception. All you've done lately is make a caricature out of everything i say, like i *totally don't care at all* instead of i *have different priorities from you.* I do care about their suffering, but i care more about consistency and saving millions in useless hospital expense.

    You will criticize me no matter what. If i just say "Yeah i'll pull the plug myself," you'll call me a heartless bastard. Anything other than leaving her on...death support indefinitely, is horrific of me.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Even better, "I'm gonna pull the plug, you got 10 minutes to say goodbye and I'm doing this out of concern for you. Ok, now move on."
    It would take me at least a few hours to get there by plane

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If you'd like to volunteer to pay the hospital bills...

    I care more about the hypocrisy of it all, as i explained. Hospitals routinely treat the mentally ill and elderly and otherwise disabled like trash and boot them out at earliest convenience. I see no reason this should be an exception. All you've done lately is make a caricature out of everything i say, like i *totally don't care at all* instead of i *have different priorities from you.* I do care about their suffering, but i care more about consistency and saving millions in useless hospital expense.

    You will criticize me no matter what. If i just say "Yeah i'll pull the plug myself," you'll call me a heartless bastard. Anything other than leaving her on...death support indefinitely, is horrific of me.
    You don't know that she would be left on life support indefinitely. You have to wonder about the motivations of people who seem to be in such a hurry to pull the plug, disregarding the family's feelings. It is THEIR daughter. If it was your child, then you can go pull the plug ASAP.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You don't know that she would be left on life support indefinitely. You have to wonder about the motivations of people who seem to be in such a hurry to pull the plug, disregarding the family's feelings. It is THEIR daughter. If it was your child, then you can go pull the plug ASAP.
    If we're going to let parents decide entirely how to run the health care system, it will go bankrupt beyond repair within a year. The strawman you build is that i never regarded how they felt, which is simply not true.

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    Re: Why brain dead means really dead

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If we're going to let parents decide entirely how to run the health care system, it will go bankrupt beyond repair within a year. The strawman you build is that i never regarded how they felt, which is simply not true.
    Talk about a strawman. No one said anything about parents deciding how to run the healthcare system. I am saying that it's not up to YOU how or when this family makes their decision. YOU and your opinions are inconsequential to their decision.

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