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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    And who pays for all of this?

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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    And who pays for all of this?
    Why the wealthy ofcourse....Didn't you know those greedy bastards have all the money?
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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I do think the job guarantee is something that needs to happen, along with universal healthcare.

    I also find it intellectually dishonest to just label something "communism" and hope to get a visceral reaction opposing it. How about you attack the man's proposals on the merits?
    OK. #1 - the WPA like, job guarantee conflicts with #2 - the basic living "allowance" from the nanny state. Both seem to imply that a "living wage", that is naturallly never defined, would be supplied by the gov't to all that wish to have it. One can only assume that #1 applies to those with dependents (like "welfare" but turned into "workfare"?) and that #2 applies to those that are single but may prefer to dabble in non-commercially viable pursuits. Naturally, if one can obtain the same (or better?) income from not working, as could be obtained from working most semi-skilled jobs, that would become the default option.
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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not likely....At least I sure hope not...You want something? Go work for it.
    I'd rather live off the back of hard working patriots.

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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why the wealthy ofcourse....Didn't you know those greedy bastards have all the money?
    Sadly, the zero sum fallacy has been sold and bought by too many. In addition, the wealthy and successful have all been stereotyped at evil greedy Wall Street types. I don't see this mindset changing anytime soon and sooner or later, we'll start doing stupid things like the French and the exodus will begin.

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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I'd rather live off the back of hard working patriots.
    Of that I am sure.
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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    When I was his age, I would have said that his ideas suck, but to use his term, "it blows."

    Overall, the first one might be possible, but what if the job isn't fun or stimulating enough for little Johnny?

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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why the wealthy ofcourse....Didn't you know those greedy bastards have all the money?
    You mean the state? I mean, if there are no property rights, no ownership, and we are supported by Uncle Sugar Daddy, then there are no wealthy- just one big happy family.
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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Sadly, the zero sum fallacy has been sold and bought by too many. In addition, the wealthy and successful have all been stereotyped at evil greedy Wall Street types. I don't see this mindset changing anytime soon and sooner or later, we'll start doing stupid things like the French and the exodus will begin.

    Keep your eyes on NYC, those idiots just put in place as Mayor, DeBozo who is one of these attack the rich, redistribute geniuses....I give him one term.
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    Re: Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    When I was his age, I would have said that his ideas suck, but to use his term, "it blows."

    Overall, the first one might be possible, but what if the job isn't fun or stimulating enough for little Johnny?
    It has already been tried and it resulted in a decreased work ethic.

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