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Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For

Boo Radley said:
Not sure this us what you meant.
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Heh, just razzin the usual suspects.

In all seriousness I think some of these policies would be great. The shortsighted viewpoint only sees this as taking from the haves and giving to the have nots as though it is merely a shallow redistribution scheme meant only to create dependents. In the long term these kinds of things build strong, confident societies that increase and diversify in functionality thus relieving the burden of welfare, of redistribution through a more natural, market driven balance in which power is restored to a more egalitarian structure.
 
j-mac said:
Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For | Politics News | Rolling Stone

In Rolling Stone this former Occupy wackobird gets full coverage with his tripe. Warner Todd Hudson sums it up best in Breitbart:

"Recently Rolling Stone magazine published a story that urges the millennial generation to demand communism in America by eliminating private property, "guaranteeing" everyone a job and turning banks into state property. After finding some opposition on Twitter, the writer let loose some ideas that didn't make the cut of his article: "exterminate" the rich and take away their money and property.After reading the article published on January 3, one thing we learn from former Occupy Wall Street organizer Jesse A. Myerson is that he thinks things are bad in America today. America is so bad--or, as he so eruditely puts it, America "blows"--that he thinks it is time to institute some of the worst communist tropes in the anti-capitalist's bag of tricks, all the same boring ideas that have been proven disastrous everywhere they've been tried for over 100 years."

'Rolling Stone' Writer Wants Communism, Redistributed Wealth

All I can do is shake my head at these people....What is the matter with people today?
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The problem is some dont know better, they never saw the evils of communism and socialism. Its just a bunch of movies to them.

You also cant blame them-we have a bunch of neo marxists in the media, pop culture, and the political parties youth are more likely to affiliate with. Its all they know, and thats a tragedy.

But not all-http://www.thecankicksback.org/
 
Verax said:
Heh, just razzin the usual suspects.

In all seriousness I think some of these policies would be great. The shortsighted viewpoint only sees this as taking from the haves and giving to the have nots as though it is merely a shallow redistribution scheme meant only to create dependents. In the long term these kinds of things build strong, confident societies that increase and diversify in functionality thus relieving the burden of welfare, of redistribution through a more natural, market driven balance in which power is restored to a more egalitarian structure.
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Not sure they work for me. Not that I'm opposed to reversing some of the redistribution we've being doing, from working man to wealthy.
 
Boo Radley said:
Not sure they work for me. Not that I'm opposed to reversing some of the redistribution we've being doing, from working man to wealthy.
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Yeah they're just ideas, not all of them good, some of them have a lot of support among revered economists. The problem is that ideas that are counter intuitive to the public are hard to gain traction on. Most people today think that anything that isn't exploitative styled capitalism is automatically marxist, communist, socialist and can't possibly be anything else. Also anything involving the government is without question bad, without even considering it.
 
Verax said:
Yeah they're just ideas, not all of them good, some of them have a lot of support among revered economists. The problem is that ideas that are counter intuitive to the public are hard to gain traction on. Most people today think that anything that isn't exploitative styled capitalism is automatically marxist, communist, socialist and can't possibly be anything else. Also anything involving the government is without question bad, without even considering it.
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Perhaps they are 'counter-intuitive' because they have been dramatic failures wherever people have had these crazy theories thrust upon them. It's always best to run your own economic system.

Revered economists?
 
Verax said:
It is the future, and it will be incredible. We just have to shake off the old, dying, conservative disasters of the last 40 years and move forward. This will be a repeat of the New Deal and Keynesian successes.
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Believe it or not there are other ideas than the right-wing stuff you guys regurgitate to each other in your bubble. If you were to read some books by some of the leading economists in the world, you'd *gasp* find them talking about these very things. I know this is all shocking and foreign to you all but, there are other ideas out there. ;)
 
Verax said:
It is the future, and it will be incredible. We just have to shake off the old, dying, conservative disasters of the last 40 years and move forward. This will be a repeat of the New Deal and Keynesian successes.
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more workers of the world wobbly whale crap
 
Verax said:
Yeah they're just ideas, not all of them good, some of them have a lot of support among revered economists. The problem is that ideas that are counter intuitive to the public are hard to gain traction on. Most people today think that anything that isn't exploitative styled capitalism is automatically marxist, communist, socialist and can't possibly be anything else. Also anything involving the government is without question bad, without even considering it.
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There's some truth to that. But I'd still didn't see any that struck me as desirable. But I keep an open mind.
 
Verax said:
Believe it or not there are other ideas than the right-wing stuff you guys regurgitate to each other in your bubble. If you were to read some books by some of the leading economists in the world, you'd *gasp* find them talking about these very things. I know this is all shocking and foreign to you all but, there are other ideas out there. ;)
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None of the ideas mentioned are new or ground breaking. I know you guys like to think you're the great minds of the future and all, but these ideas have been around for centuries. I like the new wrapping paper though.
 
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Verax said:
Heh, just razzin the usual suspects.

In all seriousness I think some of these policies would be great. The shortsighted viewpoint only sees this as taking from the haves and giving to the have nots as though it is merely a shallow redistribution scheme meant only to create dependents. In the long term these kinds of things build strong, confident societies that increase and diversify in functionality thus relieving the burden of welfare, of redistribution through a more natural, market driven balance in which power is restored to a more egalitarian structure.
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Since when? You should read history a bit more often. :lol:
 
Henrin said:
None of the ideas mentioned are new or ground breaking. I know you guys like to think you're the great minds of the future and all, but these ideas have been around for centuries. I like the new wrapping though.
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Yeah its Keynesian, the stuff we did back when the economy worked really well for everyone. Then we decided to do Reaganomics and 40 years later the U.S. is exactly how they wanted it.
 
Henrin said:
Since when? You should read history a bit more often. :lol:
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There are other countries in the world ya know, study the Scandinavian countries and let me know what you find. Also look at the 50's, 60's economic policies before we switched gears.
 
Verax said:
Yeah its Keynesian, the stuff we did back when the economy worked really well for everyone. Then we decided to do Reaganomics and 40 years later the U.S. is exactly how they wanted it.
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Keynesian? Lol! You do realize we have never actually practiced Keynesian economics, right? Why not look up what Keynes had to say about FDR's policies before opening your mouth about how great Keynesian economics is.
 
Verax said:
There are other countries in the world ya know, study the Scandinavian countries and let me know what you find. Also look at the 50's, 60's economic policies before we switched gears.
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You're a silly little man, aren't you? The fifties or sixties can't possibly be used to support your policies. Try your argument in an environment a bit more balanced, eh?
 
Henrin said:
Keynesian? Lol! You do realize we have never actually practiced Keynesian economics, right? Why not look up what Keynes had to say about FDR's policies before opening your mouth about how great Keynesian economics is.
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Wha? Where did you go to school? Didn't you say before you are really old? You don't even remember what happened back then?

Keynesian economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keynesian economics served as the standard economic model in the developed nations during the later part of the Great Depression, World War II, and the post-war economic expansion (1945–1973),
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Henrin said:
You're a silly little man, aren't you? The fifties or sixties can't possibly be used to support your policies. Try your argument in an environment a bit more balanced, eh?
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I'm curious, where the hell do you get your ideas from? Do you just make up history in your head?
 
Verax said:
Wha? Where did you go to school? Didn't you say before you are really old? You don't even remember what happened back then?

Keynesian economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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You should really look up what Keynes had to say and follow that up with a short little study on Keynesian economics. Keynesian economics isn't a tool for permanent growth, but a stop gap in a down turn with the use of work programs. You were then supposed to cut spending to deal with the debt that was ensured by the spending. Guess what we never did?

1. We didn't limit it to what Keynes said.
2. We made it permanent.
3. We never cut spending to deal with the debt.

FDR in fact pissed off Keynes for failing to follow his plan.
 
Verax said:
I'm curious, where the hell do you get your ideas from? Do you just make up history in your head?
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If you want to prove your policies are best you can't look towards a period where pretty much anything would work. I know liberals/progressives love the fifties to say how great their policies are, but it doesn't prove anything.
 
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