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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Stand by, Snowden's not finished.
    Yeah, that's what Russian intelligence is counting on. Of course, I imagine he's given them everything of importance already.
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If he gots more documents and info i believe the public would love to see it
    Not to mention Al Quaeda, China, Russia, North Korea, and all of the other freedom loving nations you all worship.
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    If only more things can bring people together
    Well, anything that screws the U.S. Government is bound to unite the Far Right and the Far Left, since they both hate everything about the government.
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, that's what Russian intelligence is counting on. Of course, I imagine he's given them everything of importance already.
    No, you have no evidence of that A and B, he and Glenn Greenwald made clear at the outset that the Gaurdians attorneys as well as attorneys from at least one outside source reviewed what would be disclosed to ensure that nothing that would jeopardize national security would be released. Additionally, it has been pointed out tirelessly that the disclosures only embarrass the NSA and by extension the federal government because they make plain for all to see that American citizens fourth amendment rights have been/are now being VIOLATED and abroad that Angela Merkel can't have an intimate conversation with her husband in private. Many of us appreciate these disclosures and will raise hell both to and with those who have the authority and means to press a "genuine reform" within the NSA.

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, anything that screws the U.S. Government is bound to unite the Far Right and the Far Left, since they both hate everything about the government.
    More hyperbole. Everybody needs and appreciates the government for something. If it takes the far right and the far left coming together to FORCE the federal government to honor the constitution, then shame on the moderate and lukewarm middle of the road fence setters!

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Not to mention Al Quaeda, China, Russia, North Korea, and all of the other freedom loving nations you all worship.
    We worship China, Russia, the DPRK?
    Any more claims you wanna make that are totally baseless?


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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Rumors, especially from Russian Truth, are BS. Since when do you trust Fox News? Hahaha
    Oh i know you were gonna single RT out of the various other sources i gave! Classic!
    But hey since you dont trust any of those sources here are some more:
    NSA broke rules on call-tracking program, court filings show - POLITICO.com
    NSA Surveillance Broke Privacy Rules Thousands Of Times Per Year: Report
    Report: NSA spying broke privacy rules thousands of times - U.S. News
    NSA analysts deliberately broke rules to spy on Americans, agency reveals | World news | theguardian.com
    NSA Has Broken Privacy Rules 'Thousands Of Times Each Year' : The Two-Way : NPR
    Report: NSA spying broke privacy rules many times

    Are these "rumors just RT" BS"?

    When it becomes obvious that someone will use absolutely any source whatsoever, as long as it says what they want, the debate is clearly over.
    Remember im using lots of sources all reporting the same exact thing.


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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    The most respectable source above notes:

    They range from significant violations of law to typographical errors that resulted in unintended interception of U.S. e-mails and telephone calls."...

    An NSA official tells the Post that it tries to flag such problems "at the earliest possible moment, [and] implement mitigation measures wherever possible, and drive the numbers down. ... We're a human-run agency operating in a complex environment with a number of different regulatory regimes, so at times we find ourselves on the wrong side of the line."

    Big deal? The important thing is the strict rule following and enforcement, not a few mistakes.

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    NSA illegally collected thousands of emails before Fisa court halted program
    Declassified court ruling from 2011 found government 'disclosed substantial misrepresentation' of data collection program.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...s-emails-court

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The most respectable source above notes:




    Big deal? The important thing is the strict rule following and enforcement, not a few mistakes.
    A few mistakes? Thousand upon thousands times a year! If the organization is too big and cant even follow its own rules and breaks it thousands upon thousands of times a year then its not working well.


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