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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    As you say, Paul erred.
    After watching Rand Paul these months, do you really believe he "erred" in bringing up the death penalty.
    In a related story, Napolitano says NO Snowden clemency .
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    Paul erred in assuming that the death penalty was ever a viable option. Politically speaking it would prove to be an absolute nightmare for the Obama administration. Of course the actual quote stated that Snowden did not deserve the death penalty or life in prison. Despite the emotional appeal that Snowden presents, swiping thousands of classified documents for his own use merits as much.
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    10 years ago, anybody who supported what Snowden did would have been put through the meat grinder by the right wing. Funny how things change...
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    I don't doubt that he intended to make them available to the public from the start. After all, his intent clearly predated even being hired by the NSA. That being said, whatever supposedly cordial intentions he may have acted with shouldn't exonerate him from appropriate legal consequences. That would set forth a fairly destructive precedent and open the door for future folk-hero wannabees.
    You dismiss out of hand the possibility that he did what he did out of genuine concern that Americans civil liberties are being violated. I happen to appreciate that because I appreciate a private conversation. Ed Snowden hasn't offended me at all. He also hasn't offended ex-presidents, SCOTUS judges, constitutional lawyers, law professors, and millions of average Americans across the country that are DEMANDING "genuine reform" to the intelligence agency with the largest budget and the least oversight of them all. And I will point out again, Senator Church warned that the NSA would become what Snowden's revelations show the agency to be without the proper oversight. I for one am not cool with this **** AT ALL!

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As you say, Paul erred.
    After watching Rand Paul these months, do you really believe he "erred" in bringing up the death penalty.
    In a related story, Napolitano says NO Snowden clemency .
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    10 years ago, anybody who supported what Snowden did would have been put through the meat grinder by the right wing. Funny how things change...
    You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Would that be the same Sandra Day O'Connor who now says the SCOTUS was wrong on Bush v. Gore?
    As bad as Roberts Court has been to Liberals, Libs could still have the Rehnquist court .
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?
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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Would that be the same Sandra Day O'Connor who now says the SCOTUS was wrong on Bush v. Gore?
    As bad as Roberts Court has been to Liberals, Libs could still have the Rehnquist court .
    Yes indeed. The Reagan appointed SCOTUS judge that picked our president single handedly in 2000, repented of the Supreme Courts involvement in the election and probably due to her horror that the presidents unchecked violation of our constitution would lead to dictatorship. Well..........................

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?
    The wiretap required one connection to be outside the US and one connection be on the terrorist watch list. Even then, a warrant was required from a panel of judges. Further, no information from the tap can be used against someone without a full/normal warrant being obtained without information from the "warrantless" tap.

    That's "unchecked"?

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The wiretap required one connection to be outside the US and one connection be on the terrorist watch list. Even then, a warrant was required from a panel of judges. Further, no information from the tap can be used against someone without a full/normal warrant being obtained without information from the "warrantless" tap.

    That's "unchecked"?
    The Supreme Court justice knows far more than you do about this!

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    Re: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn't deserve the death penalty | MSNBC

    Good for Rand! This is one of those rare circumstances I actually agree with Rand Paul! This NSA **** is really bringing people from all across the political spectrum together! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    If only more things can bring people together

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