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    Re: Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely, that's what I am saying....Dollar for dollar, those working in the plant in SC are making as much, if not more, in the case of line production, as WA.
    Thats likely accurate. WA median income for 2012 was $68k. SC was $42k. Using the wages from the glassdoor website, Boeing workers in SC are probably making more considering cost of living is certainly impacted by median incomes. Have seen this first hand living in MA. Higher median income but cost of living is through the roof.

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    Re: Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes, mainly. That was my impression as well.

    And they arent 'losing' anything....their pension programs are being frozen as is. THey are welcome to make their own arrangements elsewhere.

    Nothng that many other Americans dont have to do. The fact is, they felt they were entitled to it. Newer workers felt the same. However, the company disagreed, it affects their bottom line, and in today's economic climate, is not, just *IMO* unreasonable.
    You mean a climate of greed from multi billion dollar corporation?

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    Re: Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work

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    You mean a climate of greed from multi billion dollar corporation?
    Dont whine. If you dont like it, go out and make your own millions. Lots of people still do.
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    Re: Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Dont whine. If you dont like it, go out and make your own millions. Lots of people still do.
    That's a rather glib reply. These people don't want to make millions. That is not at all the expectation.

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    Re: Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The only competitor Boeing has is Airbus, who pays high European wages. There is no such thing as cheap labor capable of building commercial airliners. You have bought into the nonsense that all labor can be trivially replaced and has no real value. When it comes to building airplanes, it couldn't be further from the truth.
    i never said anything about cheap labor that is a strawman. I said the company is looking to shed legacy costs. which is exactly what it has done. the problem with pensions is that they continue to balloon out of control to the point that the company can no longer pay them. the shift to the new system will help protect boeings future investments and business model. they no longer have to sit and continue to pay people that no longer work for that company.


    Cars are nothing like airplanes. The build standards are light years apart.
    Yet you have the same type of process no matter if you build it in WA or SC. the difference is going to be setting up the new site to run as efficiently as your other site.

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