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Fiat buys Chrysler assets

Concern over getting crunched by a larger vehicle keeps use out of the clown cars

While I agree the tiny cars can be considered "clown cars", a small car is not always unsafe. ;)

 
Fiat has controlled Chrysler since the Diamler-Chrysler days and the restructuring. That they now have full control - I don't see much changing. Fiat would be idiotic to try and push small cars in NA and go full blown moron with that idea. That said, there's a place for small cars in urban cities on both coasts that may work to their advantage with a few models. If they kill off RAM and some of the iconic retro cars like the Charger and Challenger due to their full control, I'll go back to becoming a Ford man.

Fiat has a bad name in the US and always will.
 
I'm always amazed at the justifications friends and acquaintances will use to buy a pick up trick. 'No man, I really move a lot of stuff. Like I had to move to my apartment and I could have never done that without the pickup.' The dick pumping that people get from big cars is so mystifying to me.

Why does anybody have to justify anything?

Whenever I see people driving small cars I thank them so I can have gas for my big cars.

People don't drive small cars because they want to, they drive them because they have to.
 
Some people do need a truck. Try doing carpentry work out of the back of a compact car, or hauling firewood in a hatchback. However, most people that have them don't have them because they really need them, but rather its because they like driving them. In their case, I agree, its ridiculous to drive a gas guzzler then bitch about the price of gas (especially considering that by driving a gas guzzler you are part of the problem when it comes to high gas prices). I used to drive a 4wd Crew Cab Colorado. I always liked driving trucks and they fit with my lifestyle in that it was easy to throw fishing equipment in the back, a canoe on it, throw my road bike in it and so on. Plus the 4wd was nice in the snow and when I needed to get up a jeep road to a trail head. However, when gas started getting really expensive I traded in the truck for a little Kia Soul. I got literally twice the mpg, have plenty of space to throw stuff in the back like fishing equipment or my road bike, and if I need to get up a poorly maintained forest service road to a trailhead I just drive my wife's Subaru. I still liked driving trucks better, but its not enough to justify the piss poor mpg they get.

As a side note, my Kia Soul actually has better crash test ratings than my truck did, and being it stops much quicker its probably a safer vehicle to drive.

Some people drive trucks because they like to be higher and see over the cars on the street. It is a safety thing.

I hate being in a small car and be literally driving blind.
 
I just love the Kia Soul, which I consider a knockoff of my Scion. I mean that in a nice way.

I have neighbors that do carpentry and gardening. Of course they have big old pickups.

Also, I don't have a bad attitude toward the Hummer drivers, unless they complain about gas prices. If you can afford to drive a giant vehicle, you have every right to do so. But why?

Why would anybody have an attitude toward a Hummer driver other than to feel sorry for their stupidity.

A Hummer 2 is a re-bodied Silverado and a Hummer 3 is a re-bodied Colorado.

They got taken on the price for those common trucks.
 
That car looks like it would overheat pretty easily. How is it pulling air in through those tiny little vents for a grill?

Looks like a rear engine car. Notice the air vents in the side at the rear.
 
Oh, yeah, snow. It only snows about once a decade here. So, you are in a very different situation.

If I do buy one more car in my life, it will be even smaller than my Scion. But this is likely my last car.

Outbacks are also good in the mud. Point it and go.
 
Yeah, like they are moving to a new place every month. :rolleyes:
If I have to transport firewood I'll just pay a truck to do it, like I did 2 months ago. :)
Now there really are people who need pick up trucks and I don't mind if they have them.



Yes, there is certainly a connection between those two. Psychologists need to speak here. ;)

Do you think you have a say over what people drive?
 
Do you think you have a say over what people drive?

Of course not, I am a libertarian. It was kinda figure of speech. :peace
 
Why would anybody have an attitude toward a Hummer driver other than to feel sorry for their stupidity.

A Hummer 2 is a re-bodied Silverado and a Hummer 3 is a re-bodied Colorado.

They got taken on the price for those common trucks.

I was just using Hummer as a general term for oversized "see my huge penis" vehicles in general. But this morning, I almost got hit by a Hummer who whipped his penis out of his parking space without noticing me behind him. Fortunately, no collision.

But really I meant I don't knock people who drive huge vehicles UNLESS they crab about gas prices in which case I respond by:roll:
 
Fiat has controlled Chrysler since the Diamler-Chrysler days and the restructuring. That they now have full control - I don't see much changing. Fiat would be idiotic to try and push small cars in NA and go full blown moron with that idea. That said, there's a place for small cars in urban cities on both coasts that may work to their advantage with a few models. If they kill off RAM and some of the iconic retro cars like the Charger and Challenger due to their full control, I'll go back to becoming a Ford man.

the car dealers around here are saying the last few years Dodge trucks have actually held their own with the Ford and Chevy trucks at the car sales. I don't like small cars and would never buy one as long as 18 wheelers share the road with them.
 
I love little wagons and I hope Fiat forces the competition to make more of these types.

Last year, I heard all this crying about the price of gas. But the best selling vehicles were heavy pickup trucks. So, apparently that $3.50 gas didn't ruin the economy. But some of us need a vehicle that is small but carries a decent load of groceries and such.

We bought a relatively new Ford Focus hatchback and I love it. It has a digital screen right in the middle between the speedometer and the RPM guage. So you tend to look at it more than you do the speedometer. One of the options on the digital screen is the average MPG's. What's really cool about this is that my focus (pun not intended) is on making that number bigger than it is making my speedometer number bigger while I drive. I still drive responsibly which to you idiot drivers out there means WITH TRAFFIC. I say that because some people tend to believe the slower they drive the safer it is... meanwhile there are collisions piling up behind them.

Anywhoo... around 27 mpg's in the city and around 40 mpg's when I'm on a roadtrip if I keep my tires filled up well.
 
I was just using Hummer as a general term for oversized "see my huge penis" vehicles in general. But this morning, I almost got hit by a Hummer who whipped his penis out of his parking space without noticing me behind him. Fortunately, no collision.

But really I meant I don't knock people who drive huge vehicles UNLESS they crab about gas prices in which case I respond by:roll:

When I lived in phoenix I was laughing all the time at the concrete cowboys. They put on their cowboy hats, boots, huge belt buckles and jump into their jacked up 4WD giant dually trucks and go clubbing. Their trucks never have a dent nor see any unpaved road and they themeselves would piss their pants if they ever saw a cow IRL.

It's a lot like the new Harley crowd. Just role playing through life.
 
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When I lived in phoenix I was laughing all the time at the concrete cowboys. They put on their cowboy hats, boots, huge belt buckles and jump into their jacked up 4WD giant dually trucks and go clubbing. Their trucks never have a dent nor see any unpaved road and they themeselves would piss their pants if they ever saw a cow IRL.

It's a lot like the new Harley crowd. Just role playing through life.

The mileage on my car has been disappointing, only 19.5 but I have some really "bad" driving habits that result from my low vision. But it's just a perfect car and I don't drive much anymore.

I'm actually a little jealous of people that go out partying and clubbing. I'm not very social and I've always wished I were more outgoing but I'm bad at small talk and I never followed sports so it's hard for me to find compatible people to have fun with. I have enough, I';m not complaining. But....I wish I had a huge pickup truck and were going out to party tonight instead of posting on the internet.....
 
The mileage on my car has been disappointing, only 19.5 but I have some really "bad" driving habits that result from my low vision. But it's just a perfect car and I don't drive much anymore.

I'm actually a little jealous of people that go out partying and clubbing. I'm not very social and I've always wished I were more outgoing but I'm bad at small talk and I never followed sports so it's hard for me to find compatible people to have fun with. I have enough, I';m not complaining. But....I wish I had a huge pickup truck and were going out to party tonight instead of posting on the internet.....

Well, I'm glad your here.
 
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