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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    plus you can harvest the organs for medical reasons. Not so when you gas, fry, shoot or poison a prisoner.

    since we are becoming a green society hanging should be used

    1) recycle organs of the executed

    2) ropes can be used several times

    3) doesn't use electricity

    4) no danger to the guards of toxic gases

    5) no whining pharmaceutical companies-its not like rope makers are gonna know why the bureau of prisons is buying a few dozen yards of sisal or manila rope
    Im all for it, or even a long drop followed immediately by a shot to the head.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im all for it, or even a long drop followed immediately by a shot to the head.
    the Army issued a manual on hanging based on the weight of the prisoner and the drop to assure a clean break. if you do it right its instantaneous. as opposed to the David Carradine version



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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In many of the death penalty cases, especially the ones where the killer has no remorse for what they did, I don't see anything human in there.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    QFT- like those two assholes in CT who bludgeoned a man, raped his wife and daughters-made the wife go to a bank to withdraw money as ransom for the girls, raped them again and burned the girls alive

    I am pretty well read on medieval europe and all the horrific execution methods used in the name of "christ" back then. The wheel, the pear, the rack, impalement etc. nothing would be too horrible for those two scumbags.
    Yea, I followed that case, and spoke about it with the wife and kids as a teaching moment.

    One of the most sad and horrific cases I have ever heard about.

    Monsters like those 2 need to die to stop then from ever doing that again.

    They just did not respect life.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If you believe in the death penalty, you should have no problem with this. Testing? Why should untold rats, guinea pigs, and monkeys have to die in order to "test" the lethal dose of a chemical? With thousands of prisoners on death rows in dozens of US states, I see nothing wrong with doing the "testing" on them, provided there is no possibility they were convicted wrongly. Better a deserving sub-human should suffer and die than an undeserving innocent animal.
    Because cruel and unusual punishment is a thing we're not fans of in the United States. Don't know how you guys do it up there in the tundra.

    And since when is there ever "no possibility" they were convicted wrongly? There's quite a few people who've been executed only to have reasonable doubt come up later. (and I know at least one case of a guy outright proven to be innocent of murdering his children, a crime for which he was executed. Ugh, worst way to go)
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Humans are not perfect, so that risk will always be there.

    The current judicial system is certainly not perfect, but there are a plethora of checks and balances in capital murder trials.

    The fallout is worth the risk in order to keep psycho killers away from the population.
    Not if you're the innocent dead guy or his family it's not worth it. If it's just to keep psycho killers away from the population, life-long imprisonment achieves the same.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Abolish the death penalty, legalize most narcotics & drugs, impose sentencing maximums not minimums, reform the penal system with an emphasis on actual rehabilitation, promote independent prosecutorial and police oversight, and seriously consider steps for the defacto federalization of prisons... or keep debating on what chemical combination the state should be using to execute one of its citizens while doing nothing to address crime, our atrocious incarceration rates, and the groaning cost of our penal system.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Which is why I have no problem with execution - these pieces of crap don't deserve to live and sometimes I think their method of execution should be in the same manner as they killed their victim.
    I, personally, don't support the death penalty, but I do support the approach you take on this issue. It's hypocritical, in my view, to be in favour of administering death as a punishment yet be "comforted" somehow in one particular method as opposed to another.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Why not let the victim's family decide the method?

    Or, utilize the same method of killing that the convicted killer used on their victims.

    I am fine with either way.
    I'm not in favour of the death penalty, but I fully understand the sentiment you express - there are many families of victims who take a path of forgiveness as a means of healing and moving on - others are very much into equal vengence - I hope I'm never in the situation of having to think about it from a personal perspective.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because cruel and unusual punishment is a thing we're not fans of in the United States. Don't know how you guys do it up there in the tundra.

    And since when is there ever "no possibility" they were convicted wrongly? There's quite a few people who've been executed only to have reasonable doubt come up later. (and I know at least one case of a guy outright proven to be innocent of murdering his children, a crime for which he was executed. Ugh, worst way to go)
    Firstly, it's friggen cold here today in the "tundra". Secondly, we don't have the death penalty here and I don't personally support the death penalty.

    As for "no possibility" of someone being wrongly convicted, there are many cases where it is unquestionable who killed and how - I can think of many cases here in Canada and I'm sure there are hundreds of such convicted murderers on death rows throughout the US.
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