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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The problem with this line of thinking regarding this individual's suffering is precisely in applying the sentiment to the individual. For good or for bad, and because we are a collective society whether we like it or not, the appropriateness of any punishment needs to be thought of in regards to all potential participants, not just the ones we deem particularly unworthy.
    I would prefer the execution (where used) be swift and sure. There are lots of ways that can happen. It doesnt appear this individual 'suffered'. If he did...its hard for me to care.

    A long drop with a short rope done well is swift and sure. The executioners bullet...same. Im all for giving them the right concoction and make them feel high high high and then drop the injection on them. One last jam session with Willy Nelson should do the trick. But again...

    really hard to be overly concerned about this guy.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I would prefer the execution (where used) be swift and sure. There are lots of ways that can happen. It doesnt appear this individual 'suffered'. If he did...its hard for me to care.

    A long drop with a short rope done well is swift and sure. The executioners bullet...same. Im all for giving them the right concoction and make them feel high high high and then drop the injection on them. One last jam session with Willy Nelson should do the trick. But again...

    really hard to be overly concerned about this guy.
    Vets euthanize animals every day.

    Other than the weight difference calculation, how can the state screw up with a human?

    I hear you about the lack of concern.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The number of death row inmates who have escaped and killed again, or killed prison guards, is insignificant compared to the number who have been released when it turns out they weren't guilty.
    Please provide a credible source for this claim.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Please provide a credible source for this claim.
    I'll do some research when I have a little more time.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Please provide a credible source for this claim.
    If you're genuinely interested, why didn't you check for yourself?

    according to a 2001 Slate article which also states that the number of escapes is declining, one half of one percent of prisoners escape. No interested enough to look further, but the article references Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS)

    How Often Do Prisoners Escape?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'll do some research when I have a little more time.
    I look forward to it.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah they should bring back the chair. or hanging. the Ohio AG noted that while a murderer should not face cruel and unusual punishment, he is not entitled to a Painless execution
    I would like to think that Americans wouldn't want a painful execution for the condemned, simply because we are not them.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Ugh. So as an update....it took this guy 15 minutes to die, in convulsions.

    How incompetent are they? This is just ridiculous. It's not like you can give him an overdose for God's sake.
    It was a combination of a powerful sedative mixed with a powerful painkiller. It might have been the most humane execution (from the point of view of the executed) in all of history. How do you know it wasn't?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It was a combination of a powerful sedative mixed with a powerful painkiller. It might have been the most humane execution (from the point of view of the executed) in all of history. How do you know it wasn't?
    I never said it wasnt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I would like to think that Americans wouldn't want a painful execution for the condemned, simply because we are not them.
    Hanging is a very quick death-far more merciful than say the brutal gas chamber

    as the Ohio AG noted-the prisoner is entitled to a cruel free death but not a completely pain free one



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