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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Almost 25 minutes.

    No convulsions, just loud snorting.

    His family says they will sue.

    No sympathy here.

    His snorting will be nothing when compared to burning in Hell.
    TV news is still reporting convulsions and gasping. Who knows when it will all settle out?
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    TV news is still reporting convulsions and gasping. Who knows when it will all settle out?
    I wonder if his victim was convulsing and gasping as he was murdering her and her unborn child?
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I wonder if his victim was convulsing and gasping as he was murdering her and her unborn child?
    Is there there a point to your posts? Do you expect an answer to your inflammatory speculation?

    Here's a question...am I for or against the death penalty?
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Is there there a point to your posts? Do you expect an answer to your inflammatory speculation?

    Here's a question...am I for or against the death penalty?
    the point is, his family is all upset because he didn't just fade away peacefully. I am just wondering if they ever game a second's thought to the manner in which his victim died.

    dude got what he deserved. the only sympathy I have for the family is that they had such a piece of **** for a father.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    The reason I am against capital punishment has nothing to do with the perp, I merely regret someone did not plug him before he killed someone. My problem with CP is the lack of respect for life demonstrated by the government involved. I care not for them, I am concerned aobut a society that would kill someone that is no longer a threat to that society.
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the point is, his family is all upset because he didn't just fade away peacefully. I am just wondering if they ever game a second's thought to the manner in which his victim died.

    dude got what he deserved. the only sympathy I have for the family is that they had such a piece of **** for a father.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Ugh. So as an update....it took this guy 15 minutes to die, in convulsions.

    How incompetent are they? This is just ridiculous. It's not like you can give him an overdose for God's sake.
    The actual mechanism of death would have been apnea-the patient not breathing. That takes some time (Im a paramedic and have seen it up close many times).

    He couldnt feel or think during this time due to the types of drugs he received, followed by the rapid loss of brain function from hypoxia. People gurgle and seize when they die sometimes. Its not about how it looks to us that should matter, in any case.

    Would it have made you feel better to have given him a paralytic shortly after the lethal drugs? Im guessing yes-but that would mean this is about how YOU feel rather than the patient, wouldnt it?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The actual mechanism of death would have been apnea-the patient not breathing. That takes some time (Im a paramedic and have seen it up close many times).

    He couldnt feel or think during this time due to the types of drugs he received, followed by the rapid loss of brain function from hypoxia. People gurgle and seize when they die sometimes. Its not about how it looks to us that should matter, in any case.

    Would it have made you feel better to have given him a paralytic shortly after the lethal drugs? Im guessing yes-but that would mean this is about how YOU feel rather than the patient, wouldnt it?
    I'm annoyed by the apparent incompetence of it. Perhaps it was not but they can put dogs down perfectly fine & peacefully without all that.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm annoyed by the apparent incompetence of it. Perhaps it was not but they can put dogs down perfectly fine & peacefully without all that.
    It was peaceful from his perspective-he didnt feel or even think a thing. All he did was gasp. This guy was put down perfectly fine and peacefully, if a paralytic were to be added (I dont care btw) it would be about YOUR feelings, not the murderers.

    Again, if the left truly cares about these murderers, why dont they make it easier to get the drugs they need?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was peaceful from his perspective-he didnt feel or even think a thing. All he did was gasp. This guy was put down perfectly fine and peacefully, if a paralytic were to be added (I dont care btw) it would be about YOUR feelings, not the murderers.

    Again, if the left truly cares about these murderers, why dont they make it easier to get the drugs they need?
    I dont care anything about this murderer and my position on the DP has nothing to do with the so-called 'sanctity of life'...I would like to know why he and any person couldnt be put down like a dog...and I have had mine put down in my arms...completely peacefully, no convulsions, no gasps. Very quickly, she just relaxed and was gone.

    I find it incredible that we dont have the technology or medical knowlege to do this for humans and that people are making excuses for it. When people choose euthenasia....what methods do they use? I know ODs of morphine are one option. (I dont know if there are unpleasant reactions but havent heard of any).
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Morphin causes apnea, just like US Conservative described above.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I dont care anything about this murderer and my position on the DP has nothing to do with the so-called 'sanctity of life'...I would like to know why he and any person couldnt be put down like a dog...and I have had mine put down in my arms...completely peacefully, no convulsions, no gasps. Very quickly, she just relaxed and was gone.

    I find it incredible that we dont have the technology or medical knowlege to do this for humans and that people are making excuses for it. When people choose euthenasia....what methods do they use? I know ODs of morphine are one option. (I dont know if there are unpleasant reactions but havent heard of any).
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