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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why not just make it simple by asking the following question.

    Is it wise to grant the government the power to kill their citizens?
    Hi Henrin, why not ask and seek for yourself how the Founders supported capital punishment and what they deemed derserving of it! Then while you are at it do a little reseach on how Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause has evolved......cheers!

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hi Henrin, why not ask and seek for yourself how the Founders supported capital punishment and what they deemed derserving of it! Then while you are at it do a little reseach on how Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause has evolved......cheers!
    I am no puppet to the thoughts and opinions of others. I do not find anything rational about the stance that the state should kill it's own citizens. The state has the duty to protect the life of it's citizens and there is a clear departure from that duty when they take it on themselves to kill one of their citizens.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry, but no. This has been my stance my whole life and it isn't going to change. Some murderers deserve to die and I don't shed a tear for them when it happens.
    I agree that some people deserve to die, but I'm wise enough to know that I am unfit to decide on who lives and who dies.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I am no puppet to the thoughts and opinions of others. I do not find anything rational about the stance that the state should kill it's own citizens. The state has the duty to protect the life of it's citizens and there is a clear departure from that duty when they take it on themselves to kill one of their citizens.
    So according to you anyone at anytime can do anything as heinous as one can imagine and we the people are suppose to protect him and spare his life? We are to provide for him all the days of his life, 3 square meals, roof over his head and a bed to sleep in and toilet, sink, shower facilities, clothing, exercising facilities, medical treatment, for being a heinious murderer?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I agree that some people deserve to die, but I'm wise enough to know that I am unfit to decide on who lives and who dies.
    If someone murders someone and they are not remorseful in the least they deserve to die.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I agree that some people deserve to die, but I'm wise enough to know that I am unfit to decide on who lives and who dies.
    I am going to assume that you support a strong right to self-defense. If that is the case, then you have decided that you are indeed fit to decide who lives and who dies, based on your perception of a possible threat from a fellow citizen. Since I believe I have a right to defend myself from mortal threat, I have deemed that I am indeed fit to decide that someone else should die. Since my life is not more important than someone else's, except to me and those who love me, then why would I not support killing someone who has not only threatened someone else, but did indeed kill another person?
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    So according to you anyone at anytime can do anything as heinous as one can imagine and we the people are suppose to protect him and spare his life? We are to provide for him all the days of his life, 3 square meals, roof over his head and a bed to sleep in and toilet, sink, shower facilities, clothing, exercising facilities, medical treatment, for being a heinious murderer?
    No, for being a human being whom we have excluded from society.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Somebody has to end the life. The guy is defenseless and strapped in a chair. Who wants to do that? I mean, if somebody actually wants to do it because they desire to do so, then I think they are mentally disturbed.
    I don't think it's a case that many people ever "want" to. It's sort of like being a vet, and having to put down animals, because of various problems. It's not a good job, but someone has to do it.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They said that about the guy who allegedly murdered his children. No question, the house fire they died in was arson. Execute him!

    Then it turned out it wasn't arson.
    I could probably name dozens of "proof positive" cases of murderers on death row for every one of your "exceptions". Means nothing, and doesn't in any way discount the comments I made.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Somebody has to end the life. The guy is defenseless and strapped in a chair. Who wants to do that? I mean, if somebody actually wants to do it because they desire to do so, then I think they are mentally disturbed.
    I don't agree with that at all. There are lots of things in life that I, personally, have no desire to do or haven't the mental, emotional, or physical capacity to accomplish but that doesn't mean those things aren't needed and required in a civilized society and it is nonsense to attribute mental disturbance to someone who can accomplish an activity sanctioned by that civilized society just because you couldn't or wouldn't.
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