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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Because it is totally avoidable, because it is done in the guise of justice, because we don't need to have the death penalty to have a functional justice system.



    Yeah, still not enough for me. People make mistakes, and those mistakes could lead to the avoidable death of an innocent. Still not worth it.




    This is just flat out wrong. With a incorrectly applied life sentence there is always the hope of getting out, of being exonerated and living a free life. With the death penalty that is never an option. We can't dig up an innocent person and let them live the free life they deserve. They are dead and gone and that risk is not worth having the death penalty.
    Not to mention, it's not for someone else to say what is "worse" for another person. Perhaps we should ask prisoners if they would rather be put in jail or put to death?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    What the death penalty does is guarantee who ever is put to death doesn't commit any more crimes or kill anymore people.
    Right, which would be great if there wasn't a chance we were wrong

    I do not think it was ever a deterrent. But I still like the guillotine.
    it doesn't really matter is it's a deterrent, revenge, or form of social nullification. Each of those arguments morally fail once we acknowledge we could be wrong and that we can achieve the same results, in most cases, with life imprisonment.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why? What makes the death penalty exceptional?
    Because it's being carried out as an exercise of state authority and we have alternative solutions in most cases

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not to mention, it's not for someone else to say what is "worse" for another person. Perhaps we should ask prisoners if they would rather be put in jail or put to death?
    Don't you think that rather than facing stacked lifetime sentences, some convicts would choose the death penalty?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Right, which would be great if there wasn't a chance we were wrong



    it doesn't really matter is it's a deterrent, revenge, or form of social nullification. Each of those arguments morally fail once we acknowledge we could be wrong and that we can achieve the same results, in most cases, with life imprisonment.
    That depends on whether the goal is extermination or simply permanent removal from society.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Don't you think that rather than facing stacked lifetime sentences, some convicts would choose the death penalty?
    Perhaps, but that is not for someone else who is NOT in that position to say.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Sorry, but those who are IN that position don't get a vote. Their fates are at the mercy of the state (and the courts).

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Because it's being carried out as an exercise of state authority and we have alternative solutions in most cases
    Do you feel war should be banned as an exercise of state authority that leads to the death of innocents?
    So follow me into the desert
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    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You mean like this convicted murderer did when he raped and killed a pregnant woman?
    Yes....they shouldn't play God either. But this doesn't excuse governmental killings.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    So murders are now God?

    Nice logic.
    No. Who said that? Not I. Faulty logic on your part.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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