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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Humans are not perfect, so that risk will always be there.

    The current judicial system is certainly not perfect, but there are a plethora of checks and balances in capital murder trials.

    The fallout is worth the risk in order to keep psycho killers away from the population.
    Yeah, the fallout in case of the death penalty is just not worth the risk. The death of ONE innocent person is unacceptable and not worth the risk of having a death penalty.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In many of the death penalty cases, especially the ones where the killer has no remorse for what they did, I don't see anything human in there.
    You are not the arbiter of what makes a person a human being.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, the fallout in case of the death penalty is just not worth the risk. The death of ONE innocent person is unacceptable and not worth the risk of having a death penalty.
    Agreed. We don't need a death penalty anymore. We can lock these people up and keep OUR hands clean. Sometimes when I hear of the most heinous of cases, it is difficult to be anti death penalty, but I don't understand the blood lust some people seem to have.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The death penalty has the highest legal burdens in law. Man is fallible, as is your logic.

    And since when is the death penalty cruel and unusual? Its been accepted since the birth of the nation and still is in most of the nation.

    For you to arbitrarily state this for the rest of the nation is liberal bs.
    You are okay with the state having the power to kill citizens?

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

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    Yeah, the fallout in case of the death penalty is just not worth the risk. The death of ONE innocent person is unacceptable and not worth the risk of having a death penalty.
    Nope - that dog won't hunt here.

    That same logic is only valid if applied across the board to any situation that involves life or death in US culture, which does not happen.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You are okay with the state having the power to kill citizens?
    The state does not have the power.

    Juries hold the power to decide life or death.

    The state performs the execution based upon the jury's decision.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The state does not have the power.

    Juries hold the power to decide life or death.

    The state performs the execution based upon the jury's decision.
    Wrong. The state decides whether it is going to pursue an execution or not. The prosecution puts their case together and tries to convince people to put this particular person to death.

    Do you trust the state and prosecutors that much? Do you trust prosecutors to be 100% honest and that they always share their information with the defense? They are human beings prone to making errors. Evidence can be tampered with and corrupted. That is just one reason why I'm against the death penalty.

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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, the fallout in case of the death penalty is just not worth the risk. The death of ONE innocent person is unacceptable and not worth the risk of having a death penalty.
    Not really. Innocent people die all the time. The death penalty can be tailored to exclude cases in which guilt is in doubt, and a certain quality of evidence must be presented for the death penalty to be an available option.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Wrong. The state decides whether it is going to pursue an execution or not.
    The state can decide whether to go after the death penalty, but all they do is ask.

    The jury has the final say if it is valid or not.

    The final responsibility rests with the jury.

    No matter how you want to slice it, the death penalty is still a valid way to rid society if evil.
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    Re: Ohio killer to get 2-drug injection untried in US

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The state can decide whether to go after the death penalty, but all they do is ask.

    The jury has the final say if it is valid or not.

    The final responsibility rests with the jury.

    No matter how you want to slice it, the death penalty is still a valid way to rid society if evil.
    Evil? Anyhow, no it is no longer a valid method. It is killing citizens. Now, I've told this story before, about a detective in Providence, RI, who was convicted of murdering and dismembering his mistress. He spent more than 13 years in prison for this murder. Everyone was SURE he did it. All the evidence pointed to him as the murderer. However, after re-examining the DNA when new methods became available, it was discovered that he was INNOCENT. What if we had put him to death? This is NOT unusual. Cops and prosecutors railroad people more often than you would think.

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