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    Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    That's like bragging your wife took 1st in a professional body building contest.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    Ever thought that may be because prison sentences were given out more frequently in the last few years? Perhaps more people went to jail and were kept there.

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    I can't read the linked article, as it is behind a paywall.

    Is it your intent to claim that Chicago has recently imposed tighter gun control laws than before, and that these tighter laws are responsible for the drop in the homicide rate?

    The last news of any significance that I recall regarding Chicago's gun control laws was that the U.S. Supreme Court struck them down as unconstitutional; and that Chicago was scrambling to try to implement new laws that comply with the recent Supreme Court ruling. Any such laws, if they got enacted, and have any hope of standing, would be less strict than those that were struck down.

    And even with that drop in the homicide rate, Chicago remains one of the most murderously violent cities in the United States—hardly any basis on which to hold them up as an example of a place that is doing anything right with regard to the issue of violent crime.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?

    Since they still top US major cities in crime rates, it's likely something else altogether.

    Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy has regularly touted the improved crime numbers, saying on more than one occasion that the homicide figures were the lowest for Chicago since the 1960s or even the late 1950s. He has credited saturating high-crime areas with additional officers, using intelligence to prevent retaliatory gang shootings and moving 200 officers back to the street from desk duty.
    The department also spent tens of millions of dollars on overtime pay to, at one time, more than 400 cops a day to work in the city's most crime-plagued neighborhoods on their days off. Additional rookie cops have worked straight time in those neighborhoods on foot patrols.
    While McCarthy scoffs at the weather as a factor, criminologists said the unseasonably warm start to 2012 contributed greatly to homicides topping 500 last year for the first time since 2008. The more typical winter weather early this year helped produce sharply lower homicide figures through the first three months.
    But as spring and summer rolled along, the improvement in the homicide numbers began to slow, more sharply over the last three months. In the third quarter, killings totaled 137, down from 148 in the year-earlier period.
    Arthur Lurigio, a professor of psychology and criminal justice at Loyola University Chicago, called the bloodshed of 2012 "an aberration" that was attributable to the "unseasonably warm late winter and early spring and an explosion of fractionalization within street gangs."
    "A comparison of 2013 statistics with those of 2011 suggests that the city is returning to its expected baseline number of homicides this year," he said.
    Homicides in Chicago have declined significantly this year, but the pace of improvement has slowed - Chicago Tribune
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    412? This you're happy about?

    All violent crime has been on the decline for decades, its dropped slower in places like Chicago; Whereas DC got their annual murders under 100.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?

    Quinn Open-Minded About Using State Resources To Curb Chicago*Violence
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    Quinn Open-Minded About Using State Resources To Curb Chicago Violence « CBS Chicago
    Why would the governor of Illinois consider bringing in the national guard to help the Chicago police department, if it's murder rate was at its lowest in 50 years?

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

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    Quinn Open-Minded About Using State Resources To Curb Chicago*Violence
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    Quinn Open-Minded About Using State Resources To Curb Chicago Violence « CBS Chicago
    Why would the governor of Illinois consider bringing in the national guard to help the Chicago police department, if it's murder rate was at its lowest in 50 years?
    There are still major gang Problems in Chicago. Nobody is denying that. Gun control alone won't stop all of the crime

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    There are still major gang Problems in Chicago. Nobody is denying that. Gun control alone won't stop all of the crime
    But what you posted was false from the get go.

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"
    Only 412 homicides in the city of Chicago, now that is something to be proud of. Chicago is probably on the top ten list of the best cities to live in.
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