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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com


    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    Still keeps Chicago in the Top Ten for murder rate though... not much to brag about.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep. Or perhaps, this years crop of shooters just weren't as accurate as last years.... or perhaps the victims lived more this year than last years due to one of a thousand other variables and situations.
    Or perhaps gun control contributed.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Or perhaps gun control contributed.
    It could be lots of things, which is why you should present some evidence that supports your claim

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    Weren't people moving out of Chicago as well?

    I can see a possible truth...

    Murders down 17% after population exodus of 17%.

    What would that mean? The thread title name is a lie. The number of murders is down by 17%. Not the murder rate.

    Census Data: Chicago Population Fell By 200,000 In Last Ten Years

    Packing Up: Where People Are Moving In and Out

    Washington, D.C. Named Most Popular Moving Destination of the Summer by United Van Lines

    Why people are moving out of Chicago and into surrounding communities

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Maybe it was the increase in welfare benefits? That seems more likely than gun control. Poverty is a stimulant for crime. So, if you give the poor more money, there might be less crime.

    Just my speculation. No links.

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by xxstevennnxx View Post
    "Chicago is slated to end 2013 with fewer murders than at any time since the early 1960s with 412 homicides"

    Chicago Homicides Down by 17% in 2013 - WSJ.com

    What was all of that Republican rhetoric about failed gun control laws?
    Are you talking about homicides or gun homicides?

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Or perhaps gun control contributed.
    And you have the statistics of the guns taken from the hands of criminals, right? Should be a lot of fun...lets see how the new gun laws forced onto the state caused a decrease in murder rates. And of course...when we talk about the new gun laws we are talking about the laws mandating the state allow for less restrictive and viable concealed carry by law abiding citizens...right?

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Are you talking about homicides or gun homicides?
    Good point.

    It didn't say now, did it!

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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Good point.

    It didn't say now, did it!
    Well since 75% of homicides in Chicago are gun related, the reduction would have to be pretty obvious if they were not gun homicide reductions. And if that were the case, where are all the articles blaring that gun control is not working with damning statistics that show gun hommicides remained the same while knife homicides dropped to 0.
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    Re: Chicago Murder rate drops to lowest point in 50 years

    "In Chicago, the police also said the number of shootings fell 24 percent from 2,448 to 1,864 between 2012 and 2013, and the number of shooting victims dropped from 3,066 to 2,328 for the same period. Further, the department said every police district in the city saw a reduction in crime and all but four of the city's 22 police districts saw the number of homicides either fall or remain the same as the year before."

    2013 Ends With a Big Drop in Homicides in Chicago - ABC News

    While the article also mentions things such as more police officers posted in high crime areas with more overtime being paid, other articles also mention that thousands of guns were pulled from those areas where those police officers patrolled.
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