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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    It makes for red-meat sound bites though, which is likely why the Becket Fund chose the nuns. Obama sticks it to Nuns! Poor Little Sisters victims of the angry jagged-toothed abomination of Obamacare!...just a few minutes ago, I read this one:

    "We are witnessing a modern-day version of King Darius ordering that Daniel be thrown into the lion's den for refusing to deny his faith. "

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The private insurers in this case are not the nuns...but they are a religious based organization. It is the nuns contention that for them to request a waiver it merely forces someone else to take on what they believe to be a sin. You wont steal as long as you can make the next guy steal for you...that sort of thing.
    IOW, your claim that "nuns have to pay for contraception coverage" is untrue, and you know that it is untrue

    So how is that not a lie?
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, your claim that "nuns have to pay for contraception coverage" is untrue, and you know that it is untrue

    So how is that not a lie?
    Look how cute you are with your angry little 'lie' comments. One of your fav's, right?

    "Requiring nuns to pay for contraceptive insurance. Thats funny. Whats next...requiring gay men to get insurance covering pregnancy?"

    Read that and tell me you cant see the sarcastic nature of it. And when you DO tell me that you cant see it for what it was, I will make sure we put slip on shoes on your Christmas wish list for next year along with a nice shiny new helmet.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Look how cute you are with your angry little 'lie' comments. One of your fav's, right?

    "Requiring nuns to pay for contraceptive insurance. Thats funny. Whats next...requiring gay men to get insurance covering pregnancy?"

    Read that and tell me you cant see the sarcastic nature of it. And when you DO tell me that you cant see it for what it was, I will make sure we put slip on shoes on your Christmas wish list for next year along with a nice shiny new helmet.
    So now you're going to dishonestly deny that you said that ACA is forcing nuns to pay for contraceptive coverage.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So now you're going to dishonestly deny that you said that ACA is forcing nuns to pay for contraceptive coverage.
    Nope...Im going to say exactly what I said-in fact, I not only said it, I posted it again...and you are going to make it mean that I lied and I am an eeeevil corrupt horrible liar. Its your 'schtick'.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Great article here on the matter. Well worth reading: 5 reasons the contraception mandate matters for everyone - Salon.com

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, your claim that "nuns have to pay for contraception coverage" is untrue, and you know that it is untrue

    So how is that not a lie?
    You are right. They were offered a compromise to sign a wavier to let others pay for it.

    Btw, Jon Stewart just made same argument I've been making, only with more humor.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    well this one is easy, the nuns dont have to pay they can fill out paperwork making this so based on them being a direct religious org, they are choosing not to do the paper works so its thier fault
    Nobody is forcing anythign on them.
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    What I don't get is that Sotomayor voted that the law is constitutional. How does that square with this ruling??
    She has the Allotment for the 10th circuit, so to request a STAY, they must Petition her.

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