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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And offering a few religious denominations special privileges under the law isn't a political agenda? Religious groups need to pay their damn taxes like the rest of us.
    Perhaps so. But to me it isn't as severe a poltical agenda as those of exempting thousands of organizations from Obamacare altogether.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Right, thrust don't have to pay. But that doesn't make them that dissimilar. They are still subject to minimal standards (rock bottom standards).

    And percentage makes no difference to a concept.

    The point is the employer using being infringed upon. Once given as compensation, the insurance belongs to the employee and not the employer.
    No point in me reposting what I already have. Though I don't know what the point is about the employee owning the insurance once he receives it. All he can do is use it, he can't change it. If he receives $1000 in pay, he can't change the paycheck to $10k if he wants.
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Requiring nuns to pay for contraceptive insurance. Thats funny. Whats next...requiring gay men to get insurance covering pregnancy?

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Requiring nuns to pay for contraceptive insurance. Thats funny. Whats next...requiring gay men to get insurance covering pregnancy?
    Gay men already are. obamacare mandates that all insurance plans contain pediactric and maternity care coverages. the reason quite a few people lost their insurance coverage they had was because of those provisions.

    they were single men or possibly gay or they were couples that were in their 50's or 60's and not needing kids. they lost their insurance because it didn't meet the minimum standards.

    this is why government mandates are idiotic. the government doesn't know what everyone needs. between the manditory expanded coverage any lifetime caps removed and reduction in deductables and out of pockets set this has caused insurance rates to skyrocket across the nation.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Gay men already are. obamacare mandates that all insurance plans contain pediactric and maternity care coverages. the reason quite a few people lost their insurance coverage they had was because of those provisions.

    they were single men or possibly gay or they were couples that were in their 50's or 60's and not needing kids. they lost their insurance because it didn't meet the minimum standards.

    this is why government mandates are idiotic. the government doesn't know what everyone needs. between the manditory expanded coverage any lifetime caps removed and reduction in deductables and out of pockets set this has caused insurance rates to skyrocket across the nation.
    Oh stop it. I suppose geriatrics are also being forced to pay for contraception and pregnancy coverage too?

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    A month's supply of birth control pills can be had for 9 dollars at Targets and probably cheaper if one shops around. It probably costs that much to include birth control pills in the health insurance policy. I don't see why it is even included. The idea is to make expensive pills available to the poor, leave the nuns alone. In fact just drop the pills, 9 dollars a month is about 30 cents a day. Let's get real on this thing.
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Requiring nuns to pay for contraceptive insurance. Thats funny. Whats next...requiring gay men to get insurance covering pregnancy?
    I may be wrong on this, but it is my understanding that the costs of pregnancy is covered in all insurance policies as part of the mandate or a regulation added by HHS. I have heard this many times, but never took the time to check. Perhaps one of you all knows the correct answer.
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I may be wrong on this, but it is my understanding that the costs of pregnancy is covered in all insurance policies as part of the mandate or a regulation added by HHS. I have heard this many times, but never took the time to check. Perhaps one of you all knows the correct answer.
    I'm PROBABLY being a bit sarcastic with some of those comments. Yes...the new ACA mandates people buy a cookie cutter policy that includes all of those things, regardless of whether or not you want them or need them. Because...you know...the government knows best.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I'm PROBABLY being a bit sarcastic with some of those comments. Yes...the new ACA mandates people buy a cookie cutter policy that includes all of those things, regardless of whether or not you want them or need them. Because...you know...the government knows best.
    I heard this which seems crazy for males since they don't get pregnant. It sure does seem the insurances companies have gotten a pretty sweet deal from the government for their support of the ACA, which does include a provision for taxpayers to pick up some of the costs if the insurances companies do not make enough money. It is something like that in the law itself.
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I heard this which seems crazy for males since they don't get pregnant. It sure does seem the insurances companies have gotten a pretty sweet deal from the government for their support of the ACA, which does include a provision for taxpayers to pick up some of the costs if the insurances companies do not make enough money. It is something like that in the law itself.
    Im sure people will someday realize what is actually in the law...after they have read the law.

    Its kinda funny to hear the continuing rhetoric. Its not a tax! Its not going to raise taxes at all. Wait...the only way it receives SCOTUS approval is as a tax? Well...that seems fair after all...I mean...everyone has to pay taxes. Thats almost as funny as the people that loudly and proudly proclaimed support for passage now saying theres no way in hell they will get the coverage, they would rather pay the fine...to not get the coverage they were so anxious to have passed. Some people have gone from seconds to thirds on that **** sandwich...just to show how much they REALLY love it.

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