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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Government is screwing it up by siding with the individual rights?
    Government, in this instance, is most certainly not standing with individual rights.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Government, in this instance, is most certainly not standing with individual rights.
    LOL, if the employer gets to dictate what is and not covered how is that individual rights? The employee has no say.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You are living in a dream land here
    You're the one defending a government policy which brutally and hamfistedly stomps all over individual rights, while claiming that it upholds individual rights; and you're accusing me of “living in a dreamland”?
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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You're the one defending a government policy which brutally and hamfistedly stomps all over individual rights, while claiming that it upholds individual rights; and you're accusing me of “living in a dreamland”?
    The church is not an individual.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Government, in this instance, is most certainly not standing with individual rights.
    No individual has the right to control other individuals rights under the law. It would be obvious to you if you were not blinded by religion.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    LOL, if the employer gets to dictate what is and not covered how is that individual rights? The employee has no say.
    The employer is an individual too.

    Individual rights can only be upheld by allowing the individuals involved to come to a voluntary agreement as to the terms under which one will be employed by the other. There is no justification for government sticking its nose into such a negotiation, dictating in a once-sided manner to one individual what concessions that individual must make to the other.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    No individual has the right to control other individuals rights under the law.
    Yet the ObamaCare scandal does exactly this.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Yet the ObamaCare scandal does exactly this.
    How so?

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    You don't understand how insurance works which is the problem. Until obamacare a company didn't owe you insurance. as long as they paid you and you agreed to it they didn't have to offer insurance. companies offer insurance as a way to attract employee's.

    now when you sign up for work you get whatever insurance the company offers. you can't go to the insurance company and go i don't like this i want to add that. you can get a separate policy on your own if you don't have something that you want. you don't own the insurance policy though the company does.
    They still don't.

    And I do know how insurance works. While I agree it would be better to remove it from employment all together, insurance should be adequate for the user and not the subject to the companies whims.

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    Re: Justice Blocks Contraception Mandate on Insurance in Suit by Nuns

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, they ARE telling them what cars they can buy - we just don't see the ones we're not allowed to buy because they never make it as far as the dealerships.

    There are plenty of cars made overseas that are not permitted to be sold in the US.
    Sure. But pas there are so many options, they are not being told what to buy.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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