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One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Purely coincidental.
It's not like you might find a certain kind of person in a certain kind of position because they want to exert a certain kind of influence.
I hope I've made myself clear.

Oh for sure...Still raises an eyebrow.
 
Apparently the key talking point for the anti-creationism crowd is that if anyone doesn't believe in evolution, they must not understand it.


Actually, evolution is driven by random mutation.

Organisms mutate at random. Some mutations are selected for, some simply die out. Selection occurs either due to sexual selection or just due to a higher rate of survival for those organisms with the mutated genes.

No, it's not driven by random mutation.

Evolution is the study of how the distribution of genes changes over time within a given population. The distribution of genes changes with or without mutations due to sexual reproduction
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Purely coincidental.
It's not like you might find a certain kind of person in a certain kind of position because they want to exert a certain kind of influence.
I hope I've made myself clear.
And we have "studies" to prove it. I'm doing a study right now to prove I'm a nice guy. It's harder than I thought.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

That enforces my view about how leading question can impact a poll. Why do they not what us to see them?

The previous questions were about subjects other than evolution, such as religious beliefs. The responses were published in previous reports so they're not hiding anything.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

The previous questions were about subjects other than evolution, such as religious beliefs. The responses were published in previous reports so they're not hiding anything.

Can you show me the previous 53 questions, or just a few?
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

The poll was conducted on March 21-April 8, 2013. If you search for Pew reports that were conducted on March 21-April 8, 2013 you get a bunch of reports such as:
Growth of the Nonreligious | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

It would seem to me that if Pew was going to be above board on this, and I am not saying that they aren't, but wouldn't it make it easier, and do away with speculation if they just made the report transparent in its entirety including the polling questions, and answers used to reach their conclusions?

This makes it sound to me like a kind of "take my word for it" kind of thing.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

And we have "studies" to prove it. I'm doing a study right now to prove I'm a nice guy. It's harder than I thought.
Piece o' cake ... here's all whatcha gotta tell your pollsters to do...

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Say "Humbolt is a nice guy"
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

It would seem to me that if Pew was going to be above board on this, and I am not saying that they aren't, but wouldn't it make it easier, and do away with speculation if they just made the report transparent in its entirety including the polling questions, and answers used to reach their conclusions?

This makes it sound to me like a kind of "take my word for it" kind of thing.

I don't think Pew should allow the opinions of conspiracy mongerers to guide it's publication schedule. It has published the questions and the responses that their published reports are based on
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

I don't think Pew should allow the opinions of conspiracy mongerers to guide it's publication schedule. It has published the questions and the responses that their published reports are based on

No, ofcourse not. But for shall we say less informed people like me are more apt to review it, if it is all in one place. Having to wade through all of Pew's past polling and research just makes people like me give up...That is when IMHO, you start to get the conspiracies flowing.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

No, ofcourse not. But for shall we say less informed people like me are more apt to review it, if it is all in one place. Having to wade through all of Pew's past polling and research just makes people like me give up...That is when IMHO, you start to get the conspiracies flowing.

Conspiracy mongering doesn't require a rational reason for believing there's a conspiracy afoot
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

SO you admit that Pew has published the other questions?

No.

I have seem so far only three or four of the questions. I have a problem when the methodology and questions are not fully disclosed.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Because you haven't looked for the other questions



They have been disclosed

Care to show me?
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

I already explained how you can find them. If you want to see them, you can do the search yourself.

I already checked most those various links out. Whoop-t-do... you found one I didn't. can you find the rest? I gave up trying after several minutes of wasted time.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

I already checked most those various links out. Whoop-t-do... you found one I didn't. can you find the rest? I gave up trying after several minutes of wasted time.

I have no interest in seeing the questions which had nothing to do with evolution
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

I have no interest in seeing the questions which had nothing to do with evolution
But they are questions about religion, and question 54 was pitting religion against evolution.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Conspiracy mongering doesn't require a rational reason for believing there's a conspiracy afoot

Well, that certainly is true, but the unwillingness to compile their information for easy review doesn't help quell it either.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Well, that certainly is true, but the unwillingness to compile their information for easy review doesn't help quell it either.

I guess Pew is not motivated by a desire to quell the paranoid fears of the unreasonable conspiracy mongerers :shrug:
 
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