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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I guess Pew is not motivated by a desire to quell the paranoid fears of the unreasonable conspiracy mongerers
    I guess not....Isn't it healthy to be skeptical?
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I guess Pew is not motivated by a desire to quell the paranoid fears of the unreasonable conspiracy mongerers
    Knowing that leading questions can produce skewed results, I simply want to see the questions that lead up to #54. It's just that simple.

    Keep in mind, these independent polling places are effectively paid consultants. Sometimes they tailor a poll to get desired results.

    Excuse me for being a skeptic, and that being strengthened when things are behind closed doors instead of in the open.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Apparently the key talking point for the anti-creationism crowd is that if anyone doesn't believe in evolution, they must not understand it.


    Actually, evolution is driven by random mutation.

    Organisms mutate at random. Some mutations are selected for, some simply die out. Selection occurs either due to sexual selection or just due to a higher rate of survival for those organisms with the mutated genes.
    No, organisms do not mutate, except in science fiction.

    There can be genetic mutation however that is not the primary mechanism that drives evolution, at all. I posted an explanation, which you cut out.

    And I've never even heard of sexual selection as a part of evolution, care to share a link? You do not understand how evolution works, from anything I've seen.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Apparently the key talking point for the anti-creationism crowd is that if anyone doesn't believe in evolution, they must not understand it.
    I was wondering Peter, if you could answer my question on neurons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I can't eliminate the possibility, but I find it improbable. It's not just that there are 90 billion neurons, it's that they need to be arranged in an exact pattern.
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    What information are you basing 90 billion neurons and their need to be arranged in an exact pattern on? How do you know that? How was it proven and how do you know it wont be changed significantly?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, it's not driven by random mutation.

    Evolution is the study of how the distribution of genes changes over time within a given population. The distribution of genes changes with or without mutations due to sexual reproduction
    *whispers* Doesnt have to be sexual reproduction.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I guess not....Isn't it healthy to be skeptical?
    Paranoia is unhealthy
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I don't think you guys appreciate how bad this truly is.

    To give you a comparison, this is as bad as saying that 33% of Americans believe that the Earth orbits the Sun.

    I am outraged by this.
    Keep in mind it took over a 100 years for the heliocentric idea to eventually to become accepted. Most people are not directly influenced by the Theory of Evolution. Given now that it is being used in so many feilds of study now it probably take 50-100 years before Creationism be comes viewed in the same mannor as the earth centered idea.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Knowing that leading questions can produce skewed results, I simply want to see the questions that lead up to #54. It's just that simple.

    Keep in mind, these independent polling places are effectively paid consultants. Sometimes they tailor a poll to get desired results.

    Excuse me for being a skeptic, and that being strengthened when things are behind closed doors instead of in the open.
    Feel free to search out the questions and determine for yourself if the previous questions skewed the results
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Feel free to search out the questions and determine for yourself if the previous questions skewed the results
    I have looked, I have asked for help, and I get nothing worth while from others like you.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Can I ask why you think Panspermia is a better theory? Unless a space ark deposited creatures a diverse as giraffes, whales, monkeys, dogs, snakes and all else evolution would still have to occur to produce the diversity we see today. Panspermia posits the unlikelihood of some common ancestor deposited here from space (and where did that come from and how was it created?) in addition to evolution getting us where we are now.
    Even the simplest single-cellular life is incredibly complex. Life could have evolved elsewhere in the universe and arrived here frozen on a comet. Who knows.

    The other possibility is that we've been genetically engineered.

    I simply can't believe that chance can produce such complexity.

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