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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows








    Okay - who here rejects evolution?

    Show of hands please.


    "Republicans" are growing skeptical???? Really?

    Like there's growing evidence against evolution?
    I was going to read the article but couldn't get past eve's six pack

    It seems like an awfully big number, I hope it's not accurate...that would be scary.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You've won a Nobel Prize?

    You want evidence that evolution is bogus? OK here's a start. About 90 billion neurons in the human brain, all hooked up in a specific intricate pattern. There are about 45 miles of nerves in the human body, all wired up in a specific intricate pattern.

    I could go on. Complexity, at the end of the day, is why I don't believe in evolution.

    I have yet to see a process by which random mutations can occur that lead to such astounding levels of complexity. Natural selection is not enough

    What information are you basing 90 billion neurons and their need to be arranged in an exact pattern on? How do you know that? How was it proven and how do you know it wont be changed significantly?

    The fact that you think evolution is driven by random mutation shows you do not understand the basic mechanisms. So you are not in a position to deny evolution. You can question it, which any intelligent person might do...and learn about it. But from your postings, you do not understand it. Billions of years allows for alot of genetic shuffling and recombination.

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    The biggest misconception in understanding evolution is the belief it's based on genetic mutation.

    It is not. That is a minor factor and more often has negative rather than positive consequences

    Evolution is simply a population's genetic complement *changing* in response to environmental influences.

    If there are no significant environmental changes or stresses, then the population...or even species...will remain basically unchanged.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The fact that you think evolution is driven by random mutation shows you do not understand the basic mechanisms.
    Apparently the key talking point for the anti-creationism crowd is that if anyone doesn't believe in evolution, they must not understand it.


    Actually, evolution is driven by random mutation.

    Organisms mutate at random. Some mutations are selected for, some simply die out. Selection occurs either due to sexual selection or just due to a higher rate of survival for those organisms with the mutated genes.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    I debated this in another forum with people. I see there are too many posts for me to get through here in a quick fashion. Nobody was able to show me the actual poll and actual question by question results. Only paraphrased results in the Pew summary. Not only is the actual wording important, but so are the 53 questions leading up to question 54. These previous questions can put people in a certain mindset when answering.

    Anyone have a link to all the questions and responses?

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I debated this in another forum with people. I see there are too many posts for me to get through here in a quick fashion. Nobody was able to show me the actual poll and actual question by question results. Only paraphrased results in the Pew summary. Not only is the actual wording important, but so are the 53 questions leading up to question 54. These previous questions can put people in a certain mindset when answering.

    Anyone have a link to all the questions and responses?
    Don't know if this helps, but here is the pew article on the poll...

    Public

    Problem is, I don't see a link in that for the internals of the poll....
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't know if this helps, but here is the pew article on the poll...

    Public

    Problem is, I don't see a link in that for the internals of the poll....
    No.

    That doesn't help.

    That's their summary. I have no idea how many questions are in the poll, but please note... The question they focus on is question #54...

    What are all the questions that lead up to it?

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    No.

    That doesn't help.

    That's their summary. I have no idea how many questions are in the poll, but please note... The question they focus on is question #54...

    What are all the questions that lead up to it?
    Still looking, but here is a transcript of the phone news conference on the poll

    Pew Forum and Pew Research Center Release Second Annual Poll | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

    I find it odd that they are going to such lengths to make it hard to see the internals...
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    I find it odd that they are going to such lengths to make it hard to see the internals...
    That enforces my view about how leading question can impact a poll. Why do they not what us to see them?

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Man, what is with all the personal attacks on this thread? Are you guys really this afraid to actually debate the issue of evolution?

    Fair warning: I've been reporting each personal attack to the mods.
    You're welcome for letting you know.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    That enforces my view about how leading question can impact a poll. Why do they not what us to see them?

    Following Pew's link system, I found this...

    Question Search | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

    Still no publication of the actual poll internals.
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