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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Creationism as religion I have no problem with. Teaching it to children as science, IMO, is an great injustice to them.

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    I think "Perverse" is a word that I think applies to those who want deny or attempt to minimize children's exposure to a real science education.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I think "Perverse" is a word that I think applies to those who want deny or attempt to minimize children's exposure to a real science education.
    Agreed but I'm completely confused by the thread smackdown.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    As long as it is not taught in a public school's science class, fine.

    But as I said, they created an entire web of pseudo-science to support the creationism myth...trying to justify it scientifically. They go point by point to destroy the actual evidence of evolution and then create their own of convenience to dispute it. And it completely reels in the gullible that do not have a basic understanding of science (which unfortunately seems incredibly prevalent in this country). They have no way of distinguishing it from legitimate science.

    Creationism as religion I have no problem with. Teaching it to children as science, IMO, is an great injustice to them.

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    Even back in the 50's when I went to school, evolution was taught in public schools and creationism in church. I have never seen creationism in the public schools or even know of anyone who wanted it to be. Like I said, faith is faith and science is science. At times they aren't mutually exclusive either. They can mesh.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Agreed but I'm completely confused by the thread smackdown.
    I hear ya.

    When evidence exists in virtually ever aspect of our life that didactic science is responsible, in one way or another, for human enlightenment and every technology used for the advancement of humankind...????

    Can you image where life would be today if only creationism was taught throughout the ages? Then the current myth would be that George Washington's only job would have been cutting down apple trees instead of cherry trees.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Even back in the 50's when I went to school, evolution was taught in public schools and creationism in church. I have never seen creationism in the public schools or even know of anyone who wanted it to be. Like I said, faith is faith and science is science. At times they aren't mutually exclusive either. They can mesh.
    I know, but there are still school boards and states that are trying to add creationism or its pseudo-science cousin "Intelligent Design" to public school science curriculae. Kansas and TX are the 2 that come immediately to mind.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying that true good education can only happen in the absence of religious belief?
    For the love of God stop inflating every perceived slight against religion to some kind of absolute, blanket attack. That is not even remotely close to what I said and even the slightest bit of reading comprehension would have told you that. I've seen you do this about a half dozen times in this thread alone. It's getting old, man.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I do not think I understand what you are getting at. If it is this 6000 year thing, that is just someone's best guess and really has nothing to do with the bible or with science.
    But adherents to the idea believe it to be the word of God, and they perceive it as a biblical truth. Misplaced blind faith in an idea is still blind faith in an idea.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but are you saying that true good education can only happen in the absence of religious belief?
    That's not even close to what he said, and you're smart enough to know that.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I know, but there are still school boards and states that are trying to add creationism or its pseudo-science cousin "Intelligent Design" to public school science curriculae. Kansas and TX are the 2 that come immediately to mind.
    Can you explain what is wrong with this quote?

    "Intelligent design refers to a scientific research program as well as a community of scientists, philosophers and other scholars who seek evidence of design in nature. The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. Through the study and analysis of a system's components, a design theorist is able to determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof. Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act. Scientists then seek to find objects which have those same types of informational properties which we commonly know come from intelligence. Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design in irreducibly complex biological structures, the complex and specified information content in DNA, the life-sustaining physical architecture of the universe, and the geologically rapid origin of biological diversity in the fossil record during the Cambrian explosion approximately 530 million years ago. "

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