Page 38 of 81 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast
Results 371 to 380 of 804

Thread: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

  1. #371
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No on the first considering that's a modern invention made to fuel an anti-God argument. The rest perhaps (though it's just "Ra"). But the post you're responding to doesn't single out any particular conception of God.
    IOW, in your opinion it could as easily been Allah OR Zoroaster that created life as we know it, but not a coalition of the two, and certainly you don't insist then, that it was Jesus or the father of Jesus (although it could have been) that created life as we know it and experience it.

  2. #372
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,780

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, why then has evolution seemingly stopped for a majority of species on earth?
    Who says it has?

    The true split off of a separate species (higher plants and animals) is something that a) isnt generally 'visible' since it's at a genetic level and not always expressed in the outward physical form of an organism, b) is often taking place in front of us and we see 'transitional' forms of populations...which then causes confusion over sub-species, etc. THere is no GOAL to evolution....it only occurs as a response to environmental changes....so we dont 'know' how those forms will continue to develop, or if they even will, and c) the obvious....it generally takes place over thousands and thousands of years.

    However species are genetically adapting to their environments ALL THE TIME. The genetic differences in different populations of species are visible and internal. For humans, geographic populations have loads of identifiable genetic differences, most of which are not visible, but are traced and tracked all the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  3. #373
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Actually you really do a disservice to the victims of the taliban when you attempt to draw such comparisons. In fact, next time this strikes you as a good idea why not look at this picture and remind yourself that you're trivializing this for nothing more than political points


    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/uploads/0/...in_Somalia.jpg



    Excellent point.

    I don't believe that any group in the USA would even think seriously of doing some cruel **** like that.

  4. #374
    Is Idiot Supreme
    Davo The Mavo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Midwest
    Last Seen
    11-08-17 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,999

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Who says it has?

    The true split off of a separate species (higher plants and animals) is something that a) isnt generally 'visible' since it's at a genetic level and not always expressed in the outward physical form of an organism, b) is often taking place in front of us and we see 'transitional' forms of populations...which then causes confusion over sub-species, etc. THere is no GOAL to evolution....it only occurs as a response to environmental changes....so we dont 'know' how those forms will continue to develop, or if they even will, and c) the obvious....it generally takes place over thousands and thousands of years.

    However species are genetically adapting to their environments ALL THE TIME. The genetic differences in different populations of species are visible and internal. For humans, geographic populations have loads of identifiable genetic differences, most of which are not visible, but are traced and tracked all the time.
    Not always visible, but definitely observable as you pointed out. I also enjoy the fact you used the word "adapting" when referring to the theory that is questioned by so many. It was never, "Survival of the fittest (or strongest)," it has always been, "Survival of the most adaptable." Otherwise dinosaurs, bears, and lions would be in charge right now. But once again, I appreciate you reinforcing the scientific method with your mention of observations being traced and tracked . . . because you can't do that with Intelligent Design, or the real name for it; Creationism

  5. #375
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,780

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Adaptaion does not equal macro evolution. When the higher elevation lizards become a separate species let us know.

    That's not an adaptation of the individual, it's a genetic change.
    We have a species of lizard here in my state that evolved from one species to 2 in much the same way.....the Northern and Southern Alligator Lizard. The southern species lays eggs, the northern species gives live birth. WHich in reptiles means that they retain the eggs internally to incubate them, rather than laying them and having them hatch in a nest. The internal eggs benefit from a warmer more consistent incubation temperature and thus have a greater chance of hatching in cooler regions.

    This required a change in genetic coding for the lizards...one which became more and more prevalent in the northern race as those were more suited to reproducing successfully in the colder area.

    The overall development of that separate species would have taken hundreds, if not thousands of years...and it would not have been 'visible' to anyone around to observe.
    Last edited by Lursa; 12-31-13 at 04:37 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  6. #376
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,759

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    We have a species of lizard here in my state that evolved from one species to 2 in much the same way.....the Northern and Southern Alligator Lizard. The southern species lays eggs, the northern species gives live birth. WHich in reptiles means that they retain the eggs internally to incubate them, rather than laying them and having them hatch in a nest. The internal eggs benefit from a warmer more consistent incubation temperature and thus have a greater chance of hatching in cooler regions.

    This required a change in genetic coding for the lizards...one which became more and more prevalent in the northern race as those were more suited to reproducing successfully in the colder area.

    The overall development of that separate species would have taken hundreds, if not thousands of years...and it would not have been 'visible' to anyone around to observe.
    Forget it. They can shoehorn any change into just "adaptation," which for some reason doesn't count as evolution. Even observed speciation doesn't matter.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

  7. #377
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,780

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Are you saying that God is not omnipotent?

    An omnipotent God would not need to use the process of evolution. He could just create perfect beings from the beginning.
    What fun would that be?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  8. #378
    Sage
    poweRob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    34,887

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
    -PT Barnum-
    a quote from a guy who spent his life conning people for $'s.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

  9. #379
    Sage
    poweRob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    34,887

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Who would knowingly appear that ignorant on purpose?
    I really don't think people pay attention to topic as much as they pay attention to association... especially with regards to politics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

  10. #380
    King Conspiratard
    Dr. Chuckles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-14 @ 03:04 PM
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    12,895

    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I really don't think people pay attention to topic as much as they pay attention to association... especially with regards to politics.
    It's like sports teams in that sense: a totally "us vs them" tribal mentality for many. Hell, just look at all the stupid **** people defend or attack based on it's political association just on here

Page 38 of 81 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •