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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Stop the presses! Details.
    There's a species of lizard that has some of its higher-altitude members starting to store eggs internally during incubation, then laying them just before they hatch. The lower-lying versions don't do this.

    In a lab, scientists observed bacteria evolving the entirely new ability to metabolize citrus. For a bacteria, that's a pretty substantial change, going from being killed by a substance to actually thriving on it.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    60 years is not very long.
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    Post proof of this.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've claimed there are no transitional fossils, and when presented with a list of them you just handwave it away.
    Evidence != conjecture. You think some of those fossils look similar, great, you have a point of faith that they are transitory.

    Evolution postulates that dinosaurs evolved into birds. Where are the half-leg-half-wing fossils which MUST exist in the millions?

    (there are none)


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've claimed evolution is based on random chance, but have not presented proof of this.
    It certainly is random chance that symbiotic systems come into being simultaneously. You're thinking of this as linear progression, which is a false conception.

    The earth would need to literally spring mutually symbiotic systems into being randomly for life to exist. Plants consuming CO2, animals exhaling it, as a macro-example.

    Cellular machinery working with DNA, coalescing into larger symbiotic relationships, all which had to exist simultaneously.

    (and that is just for a cell to exist)


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've claimed evolution is against the laws of physics, but have not presented proof of this.
    Entropy. (evolution relies on the opposite of entropy, an INCREASE in energy / information)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've claimed to have read Darwin's Origin book, yet have posted fundamental errors regarding how evolution functions. (You're completely ignoring selection pressures)
    False. I posted quotes of Darwin acknowledging major holes in his theory. Did you read those quotes?


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You didn't watch the video I posted regarding the "blind watchmaker" example, despite your claims to be a software engineer.
    I have in fact watched that video, and dismiss the conjecture as falsifiable. You accept the hypothesis on faith. So be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You seem to believe that evolution research ended a hundred and thirty years ago. You keep talking about evidence, but aren't willing to actually review any of it.
    You posted a wikipedia page .... which as I mentioned, is mere conjecture.

    If science = conjecture, I have no problem with that, you're welcome to your faith! I rely on more than speculation before concluding that the universe and life arose from chaos and undirected chances.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    How long do you think fruit flies have been around? Lots more than 60 years I am betting.
    Well, such a study may require 60,000 or 60,000,000 years of testing to effect any change. The thing that makes evolution work, in part, is slow exposure or change (with EMPHASIS on slow) over a very long period. Sudden exposure to change is often death to the process in a given species.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    60 years is not very long.
    No, it's not, but he hasn't proven to me that this study ever happened in the first place. I doubt he's presenting it accurately, because 50,000 generations over 60 years would be more than two per day. Fruit fly life cycles are short, but not that short.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The power of the American Taliban is strong.


    And they don't show any signs of going out of business anytime soon.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    60 years is not very long.
    50,000 generations.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    60 years is not very long.
    In fact, when discussing evolution I might be embarrassed to mention it.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, such a study may require 60,000 or 60,000,000 years of testing to effect any change. The thing that makes evolution work, in part, is slow exposure or change (with EMPHASIS on slow) over a very long period. Sudden exposure to change is often death to the process in a given species.
    Slow exposure with SLOW change = billions of obvious transitions in the fossil record.

    Which doesn't exist.

    So you're doing nothing but speculating, poorly.

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