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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    What transitory fossils?

    Don't just post a picture of a horse and giraffe

    (or my personal favorite - whale bones!)

    Who said the world is 6000 years old? Clearly, science shows its much older than that. (not conjecture, science)
    So you're saying there's no such thing as evolution?

    Evolution is a myth. A lie.

    That's your belief?

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    Was it:

    A: A product of random accidental chaos (Do you believe order rises from chaos?)

    or

    B: A product of higher design (Do you believe order rises from higher intelligence?)


    Now, you need to apply this same question to EVERY single tiny detail, every symbiotic system and literally EVERYTHING from the smallest cell to the largest star........ as well as every single connecting (and vitally critical) system in-between in our finite little universe comprised of 3 dimensional pixels.

    What we know for certain is that "order rising from chaos" of its own accord does NOT happen in anything scientifically observable -> not without preexisting coding to do such (just like a computer program)..... or a plant seed..... or a DNA strand.....


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    So that is illogical? Your 'science' relies on imagination. (comedy gold Jerry)
    People have responded to this already, stop spamming before you get banned. It's not purely random.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you aren't willing to consider the possibility that some of your assumptions are wrong, you're not here for a debate. You're here to shout your opinions at people.
    List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That is some great conjecture and speculation.

    Funny enough, Darwin was unable to provide this evidence either (not conjecture as you cite). Ever read Origin?

    I provided quotes above where he flat out acknowledges there are massive fossils record gaps for what must NECESSARILY exist were evolution true.

    Read Origin ... you'll be surprised at what Darwin acknowledged.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    As I noted, evangelicals are not the majority of Xians. And polling those who attend church will naturally skew the numbers. These polls, especially as they related to this topic are never consitent. I think its because people get confused about the question given that there are multiple schools of thought re: god directed evolution, intelligent design, young earth creationism etc. etc. Pew research did a study on these polls a few years ago and showed how they contradicted each other depending on the question asked. I think about 1/3 seems right. But - that can only be an opinion. Polls can't give definitive answers on most things.

    If you look at the majority of Xtians in the US they're either mainline Protestants or catholic. You can throw in the mormons too, I guess. These people aren't evangelical xtians (on another side note, if you ask catholics if they are evangelical xtians many will say yes further confusing the issue). Mainline protestantism and catholicism don't reject evolution and don't believe the bible is literal in all places as evangelicals do.





    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You are mistaken. Polls have shown time and time again that the majority of Christians that regularly attend church, especially evangelicals, take biblical stories literally.

    Most Americans take Bible stories literally - Washington Times

    40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism

    Liberal Christians and Mainline Protestants are a minority of Christians in America today. The fact is, once you start to question the validity of the accounts in scripture, most likely you are going to end up Agnostic at best at some point.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People have responded to this already, stop spamming before you get banned. It's not purely random.
    "it's not purely random"

    Oh yeah? And you have evidence which PROVES this I suppose?

    Or are you like most evolutionists, full of conjecture, speculation and wishful thinking masquerading as 'science'?

    As someone already noted, my analysis isn't 'imaginative' enough, perhaps?

    By your logic:

    The universe exploded into being. Then a long time later started creating digital code for generating all manner of life.

    And then you suggest it isn't random?

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What a disgusting display of bigotry this post is....
    No it's not. It's supported in fact. The Moral Majority (today's Southern Evangelicals) and Operation Rescue are the American version of the Taliban.

    http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/culture...n_taliban.html

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Talib.../dp/1936227029

    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/06/...n-taliban.html

    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/i...rican-taliban/
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    That is some great conjecture and speculation.

    Funny enough, Darwin was unable to provide this evidence either (not conjecture as you cite). Ever read Origin?

    I provided quotes above where he flat out acknowledges there are massive fossils record gaps for what must NECESSARILY exist were evolution true.

    Read Origin ... you'll be surprised at what Darwin acknowledged.
    Is it your belief that nobody has gathered any additional evidence in the hundred and thirty years since Darwin's death?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why? If evolution is inherently contradictory to a creationist's beliefs, doesn't evolution being true disprove their beliefs, and therefore attacks their entire religion?
    If it denounces religion, and the belief in God, it violates the 1st Amendment. Does evolution, all by itself do that? I don't believe it does, so I can't understand why you're running at me like you are.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not buyin' it.
    See, a big problem with this idea rests in the fact that if you take the bible literally, there's little room for disagreement. But when you take the bible metaphorically or figuratively, then the ball rolls all over the table. As an example, Peter (of St. Peter fame) was alone at once and had a "vision" (dream) and saw a linen lowered from heaven containing all manor of unclean animals and an agent of the "lord" (an angel) told him to kill and eat to which he immediately bowed up and rejected the notion, pointing out that it was unclean and not in his life had he ever done so. To which the the angel responded, he must not call unclean that which The Lord had created to be received with thanksgiving! Ok, the literalist tells you that this meant a pig for example was acceptable food. Whereas the one that excepts the metaphor understands as he reads through the text that Peter made no immediate conclusion but rather, in his bewilderment took the vision to his comrades, the other "disciples" and after some discussion it was agreed that the "lord" was instructing them that the gospel was to be carried to the Gentile as well as the Jew. The Gentile previously being considered unclean and undeserving of the gospel. And subsequently Paul (St. Paul), was charged with taking the gospel to the Gentile. Never (as you read through the text of this story) did any of the twelve believe for a moment, nor even discuss the possibility that the "lord" was making a dietary change to the law. But try to get a fundamental Christian to understand the simplicity of that. And I would point out that this event occurred some thirty years after the alleged crucifixion of "the Christ" and the idea of "literally" eating a pig was unconscionable to the lot of them!


    Additionally, there is a list of foods that the "lord" has provided as having been "created to be received with thanksgiving" and a pig is certainly NOT on that list.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    Gravity is a theory too. Yet it has been observed. Mitochondrial DNA, the fossil record, and other observations put evolution into the same kind of area as gravity . . . yes?
    So, why then has evolution seemingly stopped for a majority of species on earth?
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