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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The more fundamentalist you as a person of the book, the more likely you accept creationism. I always thought it was kind of funny how die hard super religious conservatives share a number of beliefs with Islamic crazies. And the ultra conservative Jews are in some ways no different from the ultra conservative Muslims.
    Too true. Fundamentalism: the great religious equalizer.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Thank God for the fundamentalist Christian, it's the only hope this country has to recover from the damage those like you have done.
    I would be comfortable saying that fundamentalist Christians are as crazy as scientologists. None of them are educated.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I would be comfortable saying that fundamentalist Christians are as crazy as scientologists. None of them are educated.
    That is a downright lie, and you should know it.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    It's not like there aren't holes in the theory of Evolution anyways. Heck that theory has been under revision since Darwin first presented it. So if it's a choice to of putting my faith in a plan that has more holes than Swiss cheese, or in my God, than that's where it will rest. All that being said, I think arguing the point is mute from a religious perspective. If we truly could prove that God created everything, than there would be no reason for faith.
    Which holes do you perceive?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    People of faith will always be attacked by those who refuse to understand them, or truly believe in true freedom.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I knew I should have qualified. Doesnt mean the mutations or traits are negative to OUR uses or even the pets or livestock or crops themselves. Just that they would NOT be beneficial in natural populations.

    And we pay the price for focusing on those 'mutations.' They are highly exploited and we see the consequences in overbreeding everywhere. I see it in dogs and horses. Certain lines of cutting horses in the Quarter Horse breed have concentrated a gene for a disease that affects skin collagen and causes the skin to tear easily...like when a saddle is used. It took from about the 60's to 8 yrs ago before the gene....extremely rare before...become common in those lines....unfortunately when breeders focused on cow sense and other athletic abilities, the gene for HERDA was carried along with them....thru one sire (now that they've traced it...took yrs).

    Other QH breeders have intentionally concentrated on a line of horses with a disease that weakens muscles and causes horse to collapse...all because the physiological "form" of the horse conforms to a certain look that became 'trendy.'

    The examples among dog breeds are legion. As they are with crops.

    We cannot (as yet) predict the results of our breeding efforts where we focus on only positive traits because genes are not 'solitary' things....well they are but they are grouped on our chromosomes in pieces and that shuffling cannot be predicted.

    However for generations farmers and breeders and humans HAVE recognized the need for outbreeding.
    I've yet to meet a purebred that wasn't crazy and/or have massive heart and breathing problems. I think that we've already reached a point where we need to either let purebreds go entirely or risk seeing health problems even more severe than we already have. Adopt a mutt: it's good for you, it's good for the dog.

    As for crops, I heard a report that the banana (the aforementioned nightmare of atheists everywhere) is completely genetically homogeneous, and in fact it is entirely the same strain. An expert said that all it will take is just one fungus to attack that strain, the spread will be practically uncontrollable, and it's goodbye banana.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    That is a downright lie, and you should know it.
    I guess, but the 'educated' ones are insane on the level of mental illness. People like Kurt young should know better.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    I'm lost.

    IF someone believes that God did anything .. they only believe that. IF they believe it, it doesn't make it fact.

    Point being, religion is belief .. that's all it is.
    Yes, everyone knows that. What do you see this as contributing to the discussion?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    I guess, but the 'educated' ones are insane on the level of mental illness. People like Kurt young should know better.
    Nice, so now it is a mental illness to be a Christian....Aren't you special.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    People of faith will always be attacked by those who refuse to understand them, or truly believe in true freedom.
    People who cling to ignorance deserve criticism. God gave you reason and intellect, and it wasn't just to watch you abandon them. The earth is not 6,000-10,000 years old. That's just reality. If someone's interpretation of the bible leads them to believe the earth is that young, they are wrong. God would want them to see the truth.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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