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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Are you just making random comments?
    Are you just asking random questions?

    My point is glaringly clear.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Are you just asking random questions?

    My point is glaringly clear.

    What is it that you don't get?
    Why are you quoting me? I never once stated that religion is not a belief but you keep quoting me to say its not.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Technically that is not evolution. Evolution does not require any supreme being to guide it. A biologist would say that we have adapted to our environment, sub-saharan savanna to be specific, not that we were engineered in anyway like one breeds a better pointing breed.
    I don't pretend to know the mind of God. Did he guide evolution? That might be too strong of a statement. Did He set into motion certain events that He knew would result in evolution? Maybe.

    God's "mind" is significantly less finite than our own.


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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Why are you quoting me? I never once stated that religion is not a belief but you keep quoting me to say its not.
    "If you believe in a God you don't know Gods processes or exactly how he made man, only that he did."

    I responded to your comment by saying that the believer believes that God made man, it doesn't mean that God did, or that there is even such a thing as God.

    Your comment suggests the he knows that God did.

    I was pointing out the difference between knowledge and belief.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    And you have just demonstrated the attitude so prevalent among some on the right in America that explains why so many of them do not accept the science behind evolution. You are presented with evidence that goes against a preconceived notion your part, and rather than accepting it, you simply respond with "Not buying' it."
    Often what I see is a religious defender of creationism who rejects the theory of evolution argues that TOE lacks conclusive proof. They reject evidence, ignoring the likelihood that since our DNA is over 99% identical to the Bonobo and Chimp we must share a common ancestor, arguing we lack proof, asking that we show them a direct DNA link to this ancestor. Repeatedly they raise the bar like this.

    However...these same people will believe every word of their Intelligent Design theory on the flimsiest of evidence. It's maddening.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    I agree .. which is why God only exists in the minds of believers.

    Science exists for everyone.
    Science can't explain everything though. If it could, then we may have a different story. And it's not like believers turn their backs on all form of science. Many many Christians, like myself, know for a fact that micro-evolution exists. It's just a bit of a leap of faith to think in a single generation, you should have fish come out and walk on the sea. Or somehow warm blooded mammals evolved as the temperature suddenly got colder. Over several millennium sure, but to happen so quickly? Just too many questions marks for myself is all. Things like Macro-Evolution and Supercontinents, aren't going to effect every day life like other scientific fields will. So, I'm content to those sciences.

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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    And you have just demonstrated the attitude so prevalent among some on the right in America that explains why so many of them do not accept the science behind evolution. You are presented with evidence that goes against a preconceived notion your part, and rather than accepting it, you simply respond with "Not buying' it."
    We also live in an age where our news media is proven itself to be unabashedly bias, and agenda op-ed driven. We have a society where one side is doing everything it can to label the believers, as nuts, while those labeling them are considering themselves enlightened...This IMHO, is as dangerous as being a non believer of Islam in the ME these days.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    "If you believe in a God you don't know Gods processes or exactly how he made man, only that he did."

    I responded to your comment by saying that the believer believes that God made man, it doesn't mean that God did, or that there is even such a thing as God.

    Your comment suggests the he knows that God did.

    I was pointing out the difference between knowledge and belief.
    holy **** bro. I said IF (pretty key word) you believe in God. You got some issues. IF you believe does not imply facts.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Science can't explain everything though. If it could, then we may have a different story. And it's not like believers turn their backs on all form of science. Many many Christians, like myself, know for a fact that micro-evolution exists. It's just a bit of a leap of faith to think in a single generation, you should have fish come out and walk on the sea. Or somehow warm blooded mammals evolved as the temperature suddenly got colder. Over several millennium sure, but to happen so quickly? Just too many questions marks for myself is all. Things like Macro-Evolution and Supercontinents, aren't going to effect every day life like other scientific fields will. So, I'm content to those sciences.
    I have no argument with that brother.

    However, the point I made is that science exists for everyone, religion and the God it represents exists only for believers. Religion rarely touches on science, it's mostly philosophical and geared towards the emotional.

    Although you aren't one of them, obviously there are far too many believers who don't believe in science.
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    Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    Says the Republican from Louisiana. I think we all know how educated that group is.
    Nothing is funnier than to hear someone from North Carolina complain about someone else's education.

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