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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Anyone who dreams of splitting California up will go to their grave unhappy because it is not going to happen-No matter how many time-wasting threads like this are posted on the internet.
    You're right. Much more sentiment for it back in my parents' generation and they still couldn't pull it off. Might as well be stumping for Ecotopia.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Here is the breakdown in vote for president in the 2012 election by the counties in this proposed state of Jefferson.

    Del Norte 3791 Obama 4614 Romney
    Humboldt 34457 Obama 18825 Romney
    Siskiyou 8044 Obama 11076 Romney
    Shasta 25819 Obama 48067 Romney
    Tehama 7934 Obama 14235 Romney
    Glenn 3301 Obama 5632 Romney
    Butte 42269 Obama 44479 Romney
    Sutter 12192 Obama 18122 Romney
    Yuba 7711 Obama 11275 Romney
    Modoc 1113 Obama 2779 Romney.

    Anybody able to add up 2 columns of numbers? Anybody? Anybody? Ferris?
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I fully support this. It would mean two more democratic senators. Additionally, California is way under-represented in Washington.
    Why should a state like Wyoming or Idaho, with less than a million people have the same number of senators as California with 25 million people?



    Because that's the way that the United States Constitution says that it's going to be?

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That sucks, I'm sure Placer County would want to be onboard too.
    I've seen a number of different proposals over the years, most of them including Placer, Trinity, etc, as well as several in Southern Oregon.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If they do, I may just have to move to California.
    Now, I'm rooting for it, too!


    ulterior motives and all........
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I've seen a number of different proposals over the years, most of them including Placer, Trinity, etc, as well as several in Southern Oregon.
    That would make sense. Take Ashland out of the picture and Southern Oregon has a decidely different political leaning than most of the cities in Oregon's north.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Now, I'm rooting for it, too!


    ulterior motives and all........


    You? Ulterior motives? No way, Jose. (see? I can already speak the language needed for the move)
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...I understand quite well. As a Californian, you are probably aware that the orange areas on your map are the sparsely populated counties. Anyone in California knows that while both Southern California and Northern California trend more liberal than conservative, Northern California is definitely more liberal than Southern California.
    Really sparsely populated eh? The San Joaquin valley is sparsely populated, orange county is sparsely populated. Really?
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That would make sense. Take Ashland out of the picture and Southern Oregon has a decidely different political leaning than most of the cities in Oregon's north.
    Yep. I'd say pretty much everything south of Roseburg.


    I think Ashland is what it is because of the Shakespeare festival and being the place right across the state line that attracts folks from the Bay area.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha
    We're setting down a dark path if something like this was to go through. As a country, state, a community, we should be finding ways to unite us... not put in more divisions.
    We are continually told that monopolies are bad and competition is good until it comes to government when all of a sudden competition is bad. The logic (or lack thereof) is mystifying!

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