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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You have never been out of Ellay, have you?

    I was born in Butte country (most populous of those counties in projected state, and barely on the liberal side), lived in Tehama (more sparsely populated, but solidly conservative), have worked in Shasta (second most populous and STRONGLY right wing), and have spent plenty of time in all the other counties. You think you know more living 500 miles away than I do being from the actual area?
    Anyone who knows what they are talking about would not even try to claim that a Northern California state would be anything other than solid dark blue. Sorry....but thats just a simple fact.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I was born and raised in Placer County and it's more to the red side than blue.
    We aren't talking just one county now are we? Southern California has Orange County and Riverside County (among others) that are red. Southern California State would remain a solid blue state, however.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    soon we are going to have neighborhoods
    split over political differences.
    Thanks to the great "unifier" no doubt.

    Honestly, the plattitudes and bumper sticker slogans of the Democrat iniatives in 2008 were such lies.

    Its incumbent of the Democrat party to divide and create divisions where there once was none.

    Its one of their primary political tactics. Look what Peebo's doing now.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Anyone who knows what they are talking about would not even try to claim that a Northern California state would be anything other than solid dark blue. Sorry....but thats just a simple fact.
    Did you actually look to see the proposed outline of this new state, or are you just thinking it somehow includes all of northern California, including the obviously liberal bay area and wine country? It doesn't.

    You are indulging in some very ignorant assumptions here.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Anyone who knows what they are talking about would not even try to claim that a Northern California state would be anything other than solid dark blue. Sorry....but thats just a simple fact.
    Northern California (Jefferson "state") is libertarian. So it's a mix of red and blue. In fact since 1996 that region has been Republican in all but 1 election when Jefferson County voted for Obama in 2008.

    Sad part is in 1941, Jefferson was set to formally declare independence from California and Oregon but a little event called Pearl Harbor happened. The movement decided to focus on the war effort and not cause "a problem".
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    Take a US Politics 101 class, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Anyone who knows what they are talking about would not even try to claim that a Northern California state would be anything other than solid dark blue. Sorry....but thats just a simple fact.
    No that is your VERY simple assertion, that was proven wrong by the facts. Also, "sparsely populated" is utterly irrelevant when talking about Senators, as is state size.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Here is a list of counties involved from the article

    Del Norte, Humboldt, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, Glenn, Butte, Sutter, Yuba, Modoc. That is all of them. 10 counties. Of these counties, only Humboldt and Butte voted democrat, the latter only barely. All the rest of the counties voted republican, and even the most rudimentary number crunching that factors in population would reveal this to be a solidly republican state. I don't say this because I am a republican or somehow desire it to be republican. I vote left of center. I say this because I know a lot about the area having grown up there and being educated to the degree I can perform the number crunching.

    Just because somebody who hasn't been there "has heard" that it is all liberal up there, or that "everybody knows" it is all liberal, that does not make it so.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Northern California counties revive an old idea for a breakaway state - latimes.com

    That is right. There is a bigger push than ever from the northern counties of CA to succeed.
    They have grown tired of the crap coming out of sacremento and want their own state.

    This is more difficult than what it seems. it would take a vote from the CA government and a congressional act which
    more than likely will fail in the state first.

    they are not the only counties in a state wanting to split. counties in CO want the same due to the same reasons.
    If they do, I may just have to move to California.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Here is a list of counties involved from the article

    Del Norte, Humboldt, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, Glenn, Butte, Sutter, Yuba, Modoc. That is all of them. 10 counties. Of these counties, only Humboldt and Butte voted democrat, the latter only barely. All the rest of the counties voted republican, and even the most rudimentary number crunching that factors in population would reveal this to be a solidly republican state. I don't say this because I am a republican or somehow desire it to be republican. I vote left of center. I say this because I know a lot about the area having grown up there and being educated to the degree I can perform the number crunching.

    Just because somebody who hasn't been there "has heard" that it is all liberal up there, or that "everybody knows" it is all liberal, that does not make it so.
    That sucks, I'm sure Placer County would want to be onboard too.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Northern California counties revive an old idea for a breakaway state - latimes.com

    That is right. There is a bigger push than ever from the northern counties of CA to succeed.
    They have grown tired of the crap coming out of sacremento and want their own state.


    This is more difficult than what it seems. it would take a vote from the CA government and a congressional act which
    more than likely will fail in the state first.

    they are not the only counties in a state wanting to split. counties in CO want the same due to the same reasons.



    Anyone who dreams of splitting California or other states up will go to their grave unhappy because it is not going to happen-No matter how many time-wasting threads like this are posted on the internet.

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