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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You got what they are representing wrong.
    True..the Senators represent the state, but they also represent the people in that state.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You think people from Tehama, Glenn or Siskiyou counties are liberal?

    Menocino county is liberal, Chico is fairly liberal, parts of Humbolt county, maybe, but the area as a whole? No way.


    Have you ever lived in that part of the state? I grew up there, and no freaking way is most of this proposed state liberal.
    Yes...it actually is. How many people do you think live in Tehama, Glenn or Siskiyou counties? There is no doubt that Northern California, if it were a state in and of itself, would be solidly dark blue.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    True..the Senators represent the state, but they also represent the people in that state.
    Only by proxy of representing the State the people reside in.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...I understand quite well. As a Californian, you are probably aware that the orange areas on your map are the sparsely populated counties. Anyone in California knows that while both Southern California and Northern California trend more liberal than conservative, Northern California is definitely more liberal than Southern California.
    Actually, Shasta county has far more people than either Mendicino or Humbolt.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    From the same article....
    Seems this area of the state isn't able to support itself, so how's that going to work for them?
    That's only because the south has been stealing from the north in that state forever. My grandmother was all over splitting the state when they brought in the central valley water project. It's still going on, when there are drought conditions, the south gets the water and the north lives under restriction.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes...it actually is. How many people do you think live in Tehama, Glenn or Siskiyou counties? There is no doubt that Northern California, if it were a state in and of itself, would be solidly dark blue.
    You have never been out of Ellay, have you?

    I was born in Butte country (most populous of those counties in projected state, and barely on the liberal side), lived in Tehama (more sparsely populated, but solidly conservative), have worked in Shasta (second most populous and STRONGLY right wing), and have spent plenty of time in all the other counties. You think you know more living 500 miles away than I do being from the actual area?
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...I understand the difference....I just think it is a severely flawed system...when 2 Senators represent 25 million and 2 Senators represent less than a million. This is why I support California splitting. It would at least cut down the differential somewhat...and it would be two more liberal democratic senators.

    The senate was originally designed to be the State's representation in the Federal Government and still is, I suppose. But the way the state picks their senators does lead to a lot of confusion with people these days.

    But I propose a compromise: Since you want it to be no different from the House, let's simply abolish the Senate.
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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes...it actually is. How many people do you think live in Tehama, Glenn or Siskiyou counties? There is no doubt that Northern California, if it were a state in and of itself, would be solidly dark blue.
    I was born and raised in Placer County and it's more to the red side than blue.

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    Re: State of Northern CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    We're setting down a dark path if something like this was to go through. As a country, state, a community, we should be finding ways to unite us... not put in more divisions.
    Why? Some states, like mine, are very divided by their beliefs. And we place alot of responsibility on the states (and should place more IMO). If a state is being driven by agendas from...common example....one large metro area...but the rest are of a different lifestyle, beliefs, etc etc....why not?

    I can think of answers on both sides. One for me would be another question: Is more division rather than connection a good thing for the US? But on the other hand, what about people's rights to determine their own lives under the Const, yet within the differences of a state?

    It's an interesting topic. No, I cant see it happening because I havent see any legal grounds to allow it and only see it as a negative for the 2 bodies that apparently get to vote on it, CA Sacramento and then Congress.
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    soon we are going to have neighborhoods split over political differences.
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