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    Re: Second deadly blast in Russia's Volgograd

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I saw this in local news. It appears the woman who bombed herself and others to death was a "black widow." It is the widow's whose husbands and sons have been lost due to Russia's military activities (perhaps spetz included).

    So by engaging more militarily Russia may be producing more Black Widows that may cause even more harm.

    If only they targeted the Russian military or police targets instead this would have been a great anti-Russian/oppression news! Now though it is down to terrorism
    We know very little about those "black widows." It is entirely plausible, rather than the narrative of sympathetic victims who have suffered losses, at least a share of these women are hardly innocent victims at all. Rather, they are hardened extremists who are part of a terrorist movement, but are only passive in their role as spouses while raising children, but still part of the terrorist movement nonetheless. That they eventually carry out attacks against civilians on their own at some point would not be too surprising in the context of their being radicalized ideologues who put their terrorist movement's goals ahead of the innocence of civilians and worries about inflicting harm on other mothers and spouses. If this is, in fact the case, Russia is not "producing" so-called black widows. Instead, these women are merely "sleepers" who are already radicalized and dangerous "time bombs."

    Hopefully, Russia will be successful in apprehending those responsible and breaking their associated terrorist movement.

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    Re: Second deadly blast in Russia's Volgograd

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    We know very little about those "black widows." It is entirely plausible, rather than the narrative of sympathetic victims who have suffered losses, at least a share of these women are hardly innocent victims at all. Rather, they are hardened extremists who are part of a terrorist movement, but are only passive in their role as spouses while raising children, but still part of the terrorist movement nonetheless. That they eventually carry out attacks against civilians on their own at some point would not be too surprising in the context of their being radicalized ideologues who put their terrorist movement's goals ahead of the innocence of civilians and worries about inflicting harm on other mothers and spouses. If this is, in fact the case, Russia is not "producing" so-called black widows. Instead, these women are merely "sleepers" who are already radicalized and dangerous "time bombs."

    Hopefully, Russia will be successful in apprehending those responsible and breaking their associated terrorist movement.
    Exactly.

    Now that it is down to terrorism alternative interpretations of self-production may also apply. Again if only they bombed the ones who left them widowed instead this could have had a way better outcome.

    No one wants cowardly terrorism against innocent civilians no matter the cause.

    But while Russia tries to "apprehend" the involved though the concern is that the Russians may use these terrorist developments as an excuse to go berserk on other innocent civilians also? Hence create more "black widows?"

    Hopefully the future attacks would target the ones responsible instead.
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    Re: Second deadly blast in Russia's Volgograd

    Various Russian experts been expressing their great concerns about the rise of extreme Islamism in Southern and Central Russia - but alas no one listened to them.

    This summer these concerns were only strengthened by apparent appearance of Dokku Umarov in a video on an Islamist site kavkazcenter.com, where he basically called for the renewal of attacks against civilian targets on Russian territory.
    Here is the transcript, the original video can be found here - Kavkazcenter.com (in Russian)

    "I address all Mujahidin of the Caucasus and all the Mujahidin that now are on the Russian territory.
    Today the Jihad gains momentum, Jihad praise to Allah the ruler of worlds, by his mercy continues and takes global scale.
    Now geographically there is no Muslim piece of land where there isn't Jihad and where there aren't any Mujahidin.
    We are part of this global Jihad, which is a great honor that is granted to us by Allah.

    I call (address) the Mujahidin of the Caucasus, you see us in the Caucasus, we are your brothers, we love you with all our heart, and we constantly pray to Allah for you and ourselves.

    In my latest statements, I made peaceful statements, where we showed kindness and goodness but the Kafir in their barbaric actions in the Caucasus, showed that they don't understand kindness, but see it as weakness.
    After these statements, where we said that we won't touch "peaceful" (meaning civilian) targets, the Kafir turned all their might against the peaceful civilian population of the Caucasus, and towards the peaceful places where the Mujahidin live.

    But, for each barbaric answer should be an adequate answer from our side.
    Today we need to prove to the people residing in the Kremlin, not to the general people but to the Kremlins' dirty inhabitants, that our kindness isn't our weakness.

    Today, they go against our Muslim laws on our Muslim land, conduct a Sportakiada on the territory of Tatarstan, they know our Islamic laws, and go against them, conducting these satanic games.
    We also know that on the bones of our ancestors, on the bones of true Muslims, killed and buried on the lands along the Black Sea, they want to stage the Olympic Games, and we as Mujahidin must prevent it by all possible means that Allah allows us.

    This is why I call every Mujahideen, no matter where he is, in Tatarstan, Bashkartastan, or in the Caucasus, to do everything possible to prevent these satanic dances on the bones of our ancestors. We will pray for you."


    Doku Umarov (Amir Dokku Abu Usman)
    July 3, 2013 kavkazcenter.com
    Translation by FallenAngel


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